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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #61

Druegar wrote: Per Jeff, the duplicate healing spell cast by Lenses of Divine Sight requires/consumes a Free Action. The TDb has been updated to reflect this.


Wow - that's a major nerf - with the spell hands rule clarification this means the lenses can't be used unless the players hands were empty at the start of a round.

Can a player use lenses of divine sight and ring of spell storing by treating their standard action as a free action so as to get 2 free actions?

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #62

If you are hilding a focus weapon you are still good.
You either discover a star or you don't. You arrogant punk.

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #63

That Baton of Focus is looking better all the time.

But I think there now needs to be a rare focus weapon for clerics and Druids as well.

It also nerfs a cleric or Druid depending on a Sceptre of Might to complete a Might Set for level.
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Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #64

Harlax wrote: That Baton of Focus is looking better all the time.

But I think there now needs to be a rare focus weapon for clerics and Druids as well.

It also nerfs a cleric or Druid depending on a Sceptre of Might to complete a Might Set for level.


Agreed. But, the rare Staff didn't appear until the year after the UR Staff, so maybe next year.

I still use the Might Set for my NM cleric, but I was planning to use Orb/Crown/Girdle anyway. The relic Baton is so good that I figured it was worth giving up a shield and the set bonuses that go with them.

But it's good to have options.
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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #65

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Harlax wrote: That Baton of Focus is looking better all the time.

But I think there now needs to be a rare focus weapon for clerics and Druids as well.

It also nerfs a cleric or Druid depending on a Sceptre of Might to complete a Might Set for level.


Agreed. But, the rare Staff didn't appear until the year after the UR Staff, so maybe next year.

I still use the Might Set for my NM cleric, but I was planning to use Orb/Crown/Girdle anyway. The relic Baton is so good that I figured it was worth giving up a shield and the set bonuses that go with them.

But it's good to have options.


You don't have to give up your shield for the baton of focus

tokendb.com/token/2-baton-of-focus/

tokendb.com/token/3-baton-of-focus/
D&D teaches all the important lessons in life - the low blow, the cheap shot, the back stab, the double cross. - Jerry Marsischky

Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #66

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Druegar wrote: Per Jeff, the duplicate healing spell cast by Lenses of Divine Sight requires/consumes a Free Action. The TDb has been updated to reflect this.


Wow - that's a major nerf - with the spell hands rule clarification this means the lenses can't be used unless the players hands were empty at the start of a round.

Can a player use lenses of divine sight and ring of spell storing by treating their standard action as a free action so as to get 2 free actions?


I'm confused, now. Help me understand, please.

With a few exceptions (i.e. figurines of power automatically trigger if a condition is met [but the player still decides to use the figure.], +3 Stu's Mug [can drink upto TWO potions as ONE free action], etc.), it's my understanding that usually a player gets ONE standard action AND ONE free action per combat round?

Now, I understand if a player uses two items in one combat round, if and only if one item is used as a standard action and (if eligible) the other item is used as a free action. But how does a player get TWO free actions (under non-specific) circumstances? As a combat D.M., this seems very pertinent? Thanks for letting me know.
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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #67

Dennis Burdick wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Druegar wrote: Per Jeff, the duplicate healing spell cast by Lenses of Divine Sight requires/consumes a Free Action. The TDb has been updated to reflect this.


Wow - that's a major nerf - with the spell hands rule clarification this means the lenses can't be used unless the players hands were empty at the start of a round.

Can a player use lenses of divine sight and ring of spell storing by treating their standard action as a free action so as to get 2 free actions?


I'm confused, now. Help me understand, please.

With a few exceptions (i.e. figurines of power automatically trigger if a condition is met [but the player still decides to use the figure.], +3 Stu's Mug [can drink upto TWO potions as ONE free action], etc.), it's my understanding that usually a player gets ONE standard action AND ONE free action per combat round?

Now, I understand if a player uses two items in one combat round, if and only if one item is used as a standard action and (if eligible) the other item is used as a free action. But how does a player get TWO free actions (under non-specific) circumstances? As a combat D.M., this seems very pertinent? Thanks for letting me know.


I think we have the same question.

I'm asking if a player can choose to use their standard action to fulfill the requirements of something that consumes a free action - e.g. can they substitute a standard action for a free action.

I would assume this is true, at least in modern D&D you get standard, a move, and a minor action each round and can choose to substitute the standard for a second move or second minor.

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #68

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Per Jeff, one may not perform two Free Actions in a single round--even if one does not perform a Standard Action.
Have you looked it up in the TDb ?
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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #69

Druegar wrote: Per Jeff, one may not perform two Free Actions in a single round--even if one does not perform a Standard Action.


Whew, that was close. It was like stepping onto a railway crossing with a freight train travelling at 90 mph beimg just ten feet away. (* Heart fluttering. *)
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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #70

Harlax wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Harlax wrote: That Baton of Focus is looking better all the time.

But I think there now needs to be a rare focus weapon for clerics and Druids as well.

It also nerfs a cleric or Druid depending on a Sceptre of Might to complete a Might Set for level.


Agreed. But, the rare Staff didn't appear until the year after the UR Staff, so maybe next year.

I still use the Might Set for my NM cleric, but I was planning to use Orb/Crown/Girdle anyway. The relic Baton is so good that I figured it was worth giving up a shield and the set bonuses that go with them.

But it's good to have options.


You don't have to give up your shield for the baton of focus


You misunderstand. With Windy Boots and Baton, that only leaves three other Might pieces.
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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #71

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Harlax wrote: That Baton of Focus is looking better all the time.

But I think there now needs to be a rare focus weapon for clerics and Druids as well.

It also nerfs a cleric or Druid depending on a Sceptre of Might to complete a Might Set for level.


Agreed. But, the rare Staff didn't appear until the year after the UR Staff, so maybe next year.

I still use the Might Set for my NM cleric, but I was planning to use Orb/Crown/Girdle anyway. The relic Baton is so good that I figured it was worth giving up a shield and the set bonuses that go with them.

But it's good to have options.


You don't have to give up your shield for the baton of focus


You misunderstand. With Windy Boots and Baton, that only leaves three other Might pieces.


Indeed. Boots of the Four Winds. Yep, I'd make that trade.
D&D teaches all the important lessons in life - the low blow, the cheap shot, the back stab, the double cross. - Jerry Marsischky

Let them trap us. We have our swords. - Elric of Melnibone.

You try to get them to play the game, but all they want to do is play the rules. - Ardak Kumerian

I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend - Faramir

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Token Database 2.0 5 years 4 months ago #72

You are still going to need to use a free action to drop your Orb to cast spells.
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