TOPIC: Full rod tokens

Mike Steele wrote: I wonder how many complete Supreme Rings there are in comparison to the number of complete Rods.

We could do a poll here or in another thread just to see how many there. It would be interesting to know but I would guess there are more than completed rods, but haven't a clue.

Mike Steele wrote: I wonder how many complete Supreme Rings there are in comparison to the number of complete Rods.

I would guess that there are a significant amount more rings than rods due to the reprinting of the rings and that they came out later. Who all was interested in the rod part 1 in the first year or even knew of its significance. I won the Rod part 1 as part of the True Arena event, but did not know that it would be that great of a token.

We have two rods and two rings.

I have a Rod and a Ring.

I would be shocked if it was anything less than atleast 3-1 ratio of rings to rods.

1 ring, 2 rods

Assuming one buys tokens directly from TD (I realize there are other options), one would have to spend a minimum of $7,000 to get all seven Rod Segments whereas one would only have to spend $1,000 to guarantee all four of the Elemental Rings for the Supreme Ring. Since the latter would be far easier and less expensive to come by, it almost seems like a given that the Supreme Ring would be more common.

if the rings are so much more common and still worth so much, will the final rod have to be worth 3 times a ring then?

Druegar wrote: Assuming one buys tokens directly from TD (I realize there are other options), one would have to spend a minimum of $7,000 to get all seven Rod Segments whereas one would only have to spend $1,000 to guarantee all four of the Elemental Rings for the Supreme Ring. Since the latter would be far easier and less expensive to come by, it almost seems like a given that the Supreme Ring would be more common.

This is true, but you would still have to pick the rings with your $1000, the rod parts were part of $7000 spent on other things. Doesn't prove that rods are very prevalent but just that the money amount cannot be the only factor. I do think Rings are much more in abundance but just how abundant I don't have a clue.

For the record I have 1 rod and 1 ring. I didn't acquire all the parts from directly from TD (maybe half).

I bought 1k in tokens for all rod parts except 1 and 7. I traded for my ring.

Brad wrote: if the rings are so much more common and still worth so much, will the final rod have to be worth 3 times a ring then?

I don't think it's accurate to base the price of the Rod off the price of the rings. There's many factors which will influence the prices including:

* The Rod segments were given away free (with large orders), unlike the Rings which cost a PYP each.

* The Rod is slotless; The Supreme Ring takes up a slot.

* You needed to be buying tokens since 2008 to get all the rod pieces (unless you traded for them/bought on eBay/found as treasure), but the Ring pieces you only needed to buy starting in 2011

* The Ring has a really cool effect by itself!
The Rod has a bunch of little effects which you can get with single segments or with other tokens, which may or may not be directly beneficial to your character (+1 to a stat only bumps if you're already at an odd stat).
Yes, it gets you the Prestige Class certificate, but only once/year. In fact, the coolest thing about the Rod is that it's part of the 2-piece Eldritch set. Once the Boots of the 4 Winds are Transmutable, you won't need the Rod for that 2-piece Eldritch benefit. Tho, the 3-piece benefit might be tantalizingly awesome, too

* The Rod is numbered, and that makes it feel more unique.

Raven wrote: * The Rod segments were given away free (with large orders), unlike the Rings which cost a PYP each.

One could just as easily say PYPs are "free" because they're a lagniappe when you buy $250 in tokens. Rod segments and PYPs are both bonuses when you spend $X in tokens.
If X=250 then PYP
If X=1000 then Rod segment

Druegar wrote:

Raven wrote: * The Rod segments were given away free (with large orders), unlike the Rings which cost a PYP each.

One could just as easily say PYPs are "free" because they're a lagniappe when you buy $250 in tokens. Rod segments and PYPs are both bonuses when you spend $X in tokens.
If X=250 then PYP
If X=1000 then Rod segment

True but again at 250 you would have to pick the ring. At 1k you got the segment (you didn't need to pick the segment over something else) and 4 PYP's. Though similar they are not the same.

Or to put it another way, just because you spent $250 each of the years for the ring pieces doesn't mean you have to have the pieces. If you spent 1k each of the years of the rod you would have all the main pieces (not counting trade tokens of course).