TOPIC: Coin of Wealth and Other Mythic Token Recipes <= Part Two

If the COW gave "max treasure" the amount could be listed in the token page. Then there would be a handful of people that spent $10k to save $100 every other year, so I don't think it will crash token sales.

Jeff Martin wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Does Coin of Wealth’s effect depend on how many Charm of Good Fortune or Charm of Avarice are equipped im the party?

No. A person equipping the CoW does not benefit from any synergy TEs. I am betting that I am not seeing the big picture here, and that you wish to comment further. Please do so. Thanks.

Mostly i was curious about this, because of this scenario:

A playgroup has 10 players who all have CoA and all the other treasure tokens, so all players get “max treasure.”

Then one party member, Bob, upgrades to Coin of Wealth.

Now on future runs Bob will get max treasure, but everyone else in Bobs playgroup will get 1 less treasure than they used to, because their Charm of Avarice / Good Fortune synergy count went down to 9.

From the perspective of the party Bob might be persona non grata .

Please don’t have the gold so high, I’m already going to have to burn all my trade goods just to get to safe hold level 1 and need to acquire more gold and some trade goods. I could care less what the other mythic’s cost because the only mythic I ever intend to make is the coin of wealth I’d like to see the gold cost cut in half to make this more obtainable for your nightmare level players.
Also I hope the name changes, I think coin of wealth is a bit to on the nose.

Honestly I'm leaning more and more to all mythic tokens just saying "see tokendb" or better yet nothing. Anyone who has one will know where to look it up.

Picc wrote: Honestly I'm leaning more and more to all mythic tokens just saying "see tokendb" or better yet nothing. Anyone who has one will know where to look it up.

I was thinking the same thing, it'd mean the tokens are then truly timeless as their abilities can be adjusted in response to unexpected token interactions or changes in power level in years to come.

Any chance of changing the name to Coin of Plenty or Coin of Riches as a nod to the old school treasure enchancers?

I'd suggest having the Coin say "+X Treasure Chips, counts as a CoGF, may not equip pre-2028 TEs". The X could be 21 or whatever number you eventually decide when it goes to print.

Picc wrote: Honestly I'm leaning more and more to all mythic tokens just saying "see tokendb" or better yet nothing. Anyone who has one will know where to look it up.

+1

Thomavan wrote:

Picc wrote: Honestly I'm leaning more and more to all mythic tokens just saying "see tokendb" or better yet nothing. Anyone who has one will know where to look it up.

+1

+1. All the other suggestions are overly complicated and will not make any sense to players unless they are experienced returning players. If the goal of the text on the Token is to be meaningful to any type of player, it has to be simple.

It doesn't seem like they all need to just say "See TokenDB.Com. For instance, the wording on the Ring of Ettin should be pretty simple, similar to all the Glory tokens. Tokens like Mythic Bead of Defiance could say "+8 to Stat of Choice, save against Special Effect". If nothing else, that would give a hint to the DMs on what they do if they haven't memorized all of them.

Coin of Wealth could say "+21 TC. Counts as CoGF. May not equip other pre-2028 TE Tokens". That's less text than the CoA has.

Mike Steele wrote: It doesn't seem like they all need to just say "See TokenDB.Com. For instance, the wording on the Ring of Ettin should be pretty simple, similar to all the Glory tokens. Tokens like Mythic Bead of Defiance could say "+8 to Stat of Choice, save against Special Effect". If nothing else, that would give a hint to the DMs on what they do if they haven't memorized all of them.

Coin of Wealth could say "+21 TC. Counts as CoGF. May not equip other pre-2028 TE Tokens". That's less text than the CoA has.

Agree with you on the Ring...but not on the Coin. It may be less text but it's still brutal. No one but experienced players are going to have any idea what that wording means, what a TC, CoGF, or TE is. Or how to tell which Tokens are pre-2028. "See Tokendb.com for Treasure effect" would be much better.

Rob F wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: It doesn't seem like they all need to just say "See TokenDB.Com. For instance, the wording on the Ring of Ettin should be pretty simple, similar to all the Glory tokens. Tokens like Mythic Bead of Defiance could say "+8 to Stat of Choice, save against Special Effect". If nothing else, that would give a hint to the DMs on what they do if they haven't memorized all of them.

Coin of Wealth could say "+21 TC. Counts as CoGF. May not equip other pre-2028 TE Tokens". That's less text than the CoA has.

Agree with you on the Ring...but not on the Coin. It may be less text but it's still brutal. No one but experienced players are going to have any idea what that wording means, what a TC, CoGF, or TE is. Or how to tell which Tokens are pre-2028. "See Tokendb.com for Treasure effect" would be much better.

Rob, I'll agree to disagree. "See Tokendb.com for Treasure effect" doesn't actually tell anyone anything about what it does. The only thing about the wording I recommended that could be confusing at all is which tokens are pre-2028, and if someone doesn't know that, they can still go to Tokendb.com for clarification.

You said "No one but experienced players are going to have any idea what that wording means, what a TC, CoGF, or TE is.", but I'm pretty sure that only experienced players are going to be transmuting a CoW. There is probably room to spell out Treasure Coins and/or Treasure Enhancing on the token if necessary.