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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #13

I like Shirt of Modest Luck, it's a great token for midrange token builds.

I think the Relic Trilliant is good now, thanks! However, the Legendary is still far too powerful, it's significantly better than the Eldritch SRoEC, both in the number of damage types prevented and in the additional power (+3 Saves is FAR better than 3 points of retribution). I would recommend having it prevent 10 points of Darkrift, Sacred, and exactly one other damage type. That would still make it better than SRoEC, but not tremendously so.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #14

Mike Steele wrote: I like Shirt of Modest Luck, it's a great token for midrange token builds.

I think the Relic Trilliant is good now, thanks! However, the Legendary is still far too powerful, it's significantly better than the Eldritch SRoEC, both in the number of damage types prevented and in the additional power (+3 Saves is FAR better than 3 points of retribution). I would recommend having it prevent 10 points of Darkrift, Sacred, and exactly one other damage type. That would still make it better than SRoEC, but not tremendously so.


And the Ioun Stone slot allows for 3x more than the ring slot if equip a glory token. So having 1 of a few hands Ioun Stone be more powerful than a 1 of up to 3 rings is a significant power increase.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #15

Finally have a little down time :)

Bibwicks: still not a fan of it being on wrist. I personally thought it better on the neck slot, but I know I am one of a very few in this regard. I like the artwork a lot. I also liked the progression of 2-3-5 since the cost of all the TG to go from 3-4. Recipes are unknown but it’s averaging around $350-$400 if you start with an UR and go to Relic ( not including UR PYP price ). Then from UR to Legendary it’s between $760-$1,000 depending on when you get your TG. We have seen EM hit $5.80 /u when last year under $2/u and many others go up. With not as many auctions and the preparation of Safeholds it has definitely increased the cost of TG and effected the overall value. Greater bead of whispers goes for about $150 when it costs a little over $400 to make it. My point is: it’s hard to justify the cost. $350 to got from 2-3 beads, then $800+ to get + 1 bead ( 4 from L Bibwicks ). That’s why I would suggest 2UR / 3/R / 5L.

Trillants: I absolutely love the artwork and think the addition on the Darkrift it is perfect. I know it’s been a lot of back and fourth but I really see this being a must have for nearly everyone. Plus for those who can’t get a SRoEC it gives them a chance to build one. Once they make the Relic they can make the Legendary any time. The power difference between Relic and Legendary is great. The way it is now, I see this one being one that is going to have to be ordered again because you have so many made in the next 2 years.

Completion Relics: I will say it again! Love the art work, sad to see the Bifrost Charm + 4 dmg to both ranged and melee move to +4 to only one, but I can understand. I just really like it. The Bead of Asgard solid. I think the Rainbow colors on both of there’s are a bit too bright and take away from the architectural background but this is small.

The other Exalted all look nice. Love seeing a reprint of the Eldritch Runestone. I’ve seen many exited about the modest shirt, not my cup of tea though. I’m curious if the Crown of the Tavern is slotless but I don’t think so. The reprint of the Archers Buckler is well received and I’m excited to see the spirit pet! Though I still like the other name “Flying Tree Rat” and vote to change it! And I still like Sólarstein Trillant for the Legendary. Feels much more Viking!!! They used there stones to help find the sun to when cloudy. It’s believed that they used them on the seas as well as to travel on strange lands!

All in all I love them :) you guys have a good run and I know many are excited for next year :)
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #16

The Trilliant Line looks respectable now.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #17

These look good to me.

The Relic Trilliant seems extremely appealing to me at +3 to saves but still inside the envelope of what I think is OK. Thanks for knocking off the elemental types at Relic.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #18

Ioun Stone Trilliants: It really seems like there is way too much power on the Legendary. Also still feel, although it seems that I’m in the minority on this, that the progression from UR/Relic/Legendary shouldn’t just be adding types of damage to the previous version. If all three don’t overlap, there is still a reason to sometimes take a ‘inferior’ version, as opposed the top tier being better in every situation.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #19

Trilliants: I agree with others that the relic is more fair but the legendary is still too much. The main reason I say so is because we usually see more rounds of combat in VTD, and in a room with an every-turn AOE damage effect, corresponding DR is worth heaps more than in classic TD. In recent rooms with AOE darkrift damage it’s been the difference between shrugging of an entire room or needing a major heal. Similar situations have happened in fireball rooms and SROEC, but it’s one of the rarer tokens out there. When the large DR effect is more accessible we will see more have/have not situations in the party.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #20

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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #21

6 Exalted items seems like a lot, while only two Enhanced. Of all the 4 points Crown of the Tavern, feels more like a 3 point level token. It's fun, but is more uncommon+ level, than rare+ level. I would consider changing it to Enhanced and then you have 5 and 3. The recipe could require any 2 of the 3 Beer drinkers items maybe.
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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #22

Ioun Stone Sunstone Trillant - Should be Ioun Stone Sunstone "Trilliant"

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2025 Transmuted Tokens 3 months 3 weeks ago #23

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Phil Norton wrote: Ioun Stone Sunstone Trillant - Should be Ioun Stone Sunstone "Trilliant"

fixed, thank you! (you'll see it in the next update)
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