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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #13

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Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep

If it goes to +2 saves, I think the leap could be 1/room instead of 1/game. In fact, I like that as the, uhh, extra final version?

That's then essentially a flat upgrade to the Fizzy Lifting Pack (fly at least theoretically has some additional utility vs "leap", but realistically in TD there's not really any difference)
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #14

Sad about the glove restrict to only 2 handed weapons, but I’m happy the death knight shield made it!
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #15

NightGod wrote:

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep

If it goes to +2 saves, I think the leap could be 1/room instead of 1/game. In fact, I like that as the, uhh, extra final version?

That's then essentially a flat upgrade to the Fizzy Lifting Pack (fly at least theoretically has some additional utility vs "leap", but realistically in TD there's not really any difference)

Maybe that's OK? Is there a Fizzy Lifting Pack fanclub that I'm not aware of? I've heard people say it's not powerful enough before, so maybe +2 saves would do it?
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #16

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep

If it goes to +2 saves, I think the leap could be 1/room instead of 1/game. In fact, I like that as the, uhh, extra final version?

That's then essentially a flat upgrade to the Fizzy Lifting Pack (fly at least theoretically has some additional utility vs "leap", but realistically in TD there's not really any difference)

Maybe that's OK? Is there a Fizzy Lifting Pack fanclub that I'm not aware of? I've heard people say it's not powerful enough before, so maybe +2 saves would do it?


Just reprint Fizzy Lifting Pack instead?
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #17

On Archerin's bow.

Is it a non magical weapon?
Are app developers OK with the dex modifier adding damage for a single weapon?
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #18

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep

If it goes to +2 saves, I think the leap could be 1/room instead of 1/game. In fact, I like that as the, uhh, extra final version?

That's then essentially a flat upgrade to the Fizzy Lifting Pack (fly at least theoretically has some additional utility vs "leap", but realistically in TD there's not really any difference)

Maybe that's OK? Is there a Fizzy Lifting Pack fanclub that I'm not aware of? I've heard people say it's not powerful enough before, so maybe +2 saves would do it?

I like the wings, I liked them
Better with the dmg modifier, but since the gloves no longer help 1 handed melee use set and only 2 handed, I think removing the 2 handed on the wings was right. If we change it back to what it organizers was adding dmg for both 1 and 2 handed, then I could see it going back, but saves are good for the wings. Now they don’t help just melee 2H users but all users
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #19

Endgame wrote:

Lequinian wrote: Gloves - being only 2-handed limits their appeal. (Realistically no monks, rangers, or rogues.)

As written, Rangers would benefit from 2H bows, as would anyone else using a 2H range weapon.


Yes. Thank you.

I meant melee versions of same but work prevented focus to update to clarify.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #20

I see the argument of lucky being +3 saves and half a set, but I agree +2 saves is the way to go.

Definitely like the death knight shield
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #21

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I considered the set bonus on Lucky, but it's +5hp and there are four items that enable it, so seems a bit underpowered compared to a Leap attack.

I have doubts any melee attacker with the choice that would use Lucky over Wrath, even if you dropped the saves to 2 on the Wings
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #22

NightGod wrote: I considered the set bonus on Lucky, but it's +5hp and there are four items that enable it, so seems a bit underpowered compared to a Leap attack.

I have doubts any melee attacker with the choice that would use Lucky over Wrath, even if you dropped the saves to 2 on the Wings


For my melee build… As written, wings wins. Drop to 2 and wings are on for first time through, lucky if range not needed.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #23

Thanks Jeff for changing the gloves, those were probably the single token which stood out to me as most in need of a change from the last UR list.

Kusig wrote: Are gloves supposed to work with 2 handed ranged weapons?


This is a very good spot, considering the ready availability of two-handed ranged weapons I'm assuming it might not have been intended for this to boost both melee and ranged at the same time.

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep


I see your point, although Wings of Wrath is only useful to melee builds. Since magic and ranged builds will still value the Lucky Cloak over this, I would say there's room for both. If this were dropped to only +2 to saves, it'd then be eclipsed by Cloak of Shadowskin instead.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 1 year 3 months ago #24

Hi Jeff,

Wings of Wrath is overpowered, it has the same +3 Saves as the other UR Cloaks and adds in a very valuable melee attack at range. It completely obsoletes both of the previous +3 Saves Cloaks. +2 Saves and Melee Attack at Range is more appropriate. Or even +1 Saves and Melee attack at range 2/game.

It seems odd for Monks to be on the Mystic Staff, they aren't spellcasters.

Maybe Ranger shouldn't be on the Sword unless their ability to add bonus damage to both attacks goes away.

Maybe the Gloves could do a lesser amount of damage for one-handed weapons, instead of only being useful for two-handed weapons?
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