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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #1

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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #2

I see a lot of improvements from the previous draft, thanks for making all the changes! For the Scarab Shield, I wonder if it should be adjusted to be for only the Cleric, Fighters, and Paladin, similar to the Scarab Armor? Especially since +1 saves on a shield is strong at the Rare level.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #3

Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat
Should be templated like last year's tokens if possible.
+1 to Strength (Fighters: total +2 to Strength)
+1 to Dexterity (Monk & Ranger: total +2 to Dexterity)


Armor of Anubis
Affects is misspelled. The 's' at the end of 'ignores' should be omitted.
+4 to AC & ignore 1st Undead Touch effect (not dmg) that affects you in game

Charm of Gifted Vigor
Should be templated like last year's tokens if possible.
+1 to CON (Bard & Rogue: total +2 to CON)

Shiver Quiver
Does this only affect one ammo token per combat?
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #4

Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #5

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


Bull and Cat match this year's Buccaneer. Can't increase the power when we had the same one last year.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #6

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #7

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.


Beads have already been defined as more powerful than Charms and Ioun stones though so they are a bad comparison. In fact we already have a rare bead that gives +3 to ability scores.

Bead of the Deeper Ones

I agree that a bead expander complicates this a bit, but I am not sure lowering the power of a slot is the right direction to go.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #8

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.


Beads have already been defined as more powerful than Charms and Ioun stones though so they are a bad comparison. In fact we already have a rare bead that gives +3 to ability scores.

Bead of the Deeper Ones

I agree that a bead expander complicates this a bit, but I am not sure lowering the power of a slot is the right direction to go.


Bead of the Deeper Ones is a Completion Token, which in many cases are more powerful than Rares from ten packs.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #9

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.


Beads have already been defined as more powerful than Charms and Ioun stones though so they are a bad comparison. In fact we already have a rare bead that gives +3 to ability scores.

Bead of the Deeper Ones

I agree that a bead expander complicates this a bit, but I am not sure lowering the power of a slot is the right direction to go.


Bead of the Deeper Ones is a Completion Token, which in many cases are more powerful than Rares from ten packs.


True but we are talking about +1 vs +3 here. :)

+1 on a bead is what we should expect on an uncommon.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #10

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.


Beads have already been defined as more powerful than Charms and Ioun stones though so they are a bad comparison. In fact we already have a rare bead that gives +3 to ability scores.

Bead of the Deeper Ones

I agree that a bead expander complicates this a bit, but I am not sure lowering the power of a slot is the right direction to go.


Bead of the Deeper Ones is a Completion Token, which in many cases are more powerful than Rares from ten packs.


True but we are talking about +1 vs +3 here. :)

+1 on a bead is what we should expect on an uncommon.


tokendb.com/token/bead-of-the-buccaneer/

This is a 2023 token and the first of the series. We should not creep past this precedent.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #11

Kusig wrote:

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote:

AAckeret wrote:

OrionW wrote: Bead of the Bull & Bead of the Cat should probably be more powerful. If a UR bead is worth 2 focus which is approximately worth 4 ability points. I think +2 at rare is probably closer to the correct power level. Maybe +2 for all and +3 for the dedicated classes.


This came up during the first round, when those beads were +2. That would make them on par with UR Volunteer Ioun Stones and Charms, and with a Bead Expander looking to come this year also.


Beads have already been defined as more powerful than Charms and Ioun stones though so they are a bad comparison. In fact we already have a rare bead that gives +3 to ability scores.

Bead of the Deeper Ones

I agree that a bead expander complicates this a bit, but I am not sure lowering the power of a slot is the right direction to go.


Bead of the Deeper Ones is a Completion Token, which in many cases are more powerful than Rares from ten packs.


True but we are talking about +1 vs +3 here. :)

+1 on a bead is what we should expect on an uncommon.


tokendb.com/token/bead-of-the-buccaneer/

This is a 2023 token and the first of the series. We should not creep past this precedent.


Fair, although that token looks like it slipped through last year. It should have been more powerful.
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2024 Rare Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #12

OrionW wrote:
Fair, although that token looks like it slipped through last year. It should have been more powerful.


It was fine last year before we got Stalker's and the like.
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