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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #13

Monks and wizards back on the legendary boots?! So much to consider again! Entirely depends on the recipie as 5 hp, and 1 fort and a level is probably less than 4 AC, maybe?

The free action loss to relic is probably okay?

The bead, it is powerful, it doesn’t break bard, and other than just adding free action to null lucky traveler completely I’m not sure what could be done. Glad the relic doesn’t completely nullify lucky traveler that’s for sure. Should these keep the rogue ability to avoid rogues either not making this (lucky, plus free pass, plus sneak the world) or needing to swap free traveler?
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #14

Consistent naming on the Relic Boots would be:

Boots of Protection +4

To match Ring of Protection +4:

tokendb.com/token/ring-of-protection-4/

This would allow a future +X Boots of Protection at Rare to be made.
Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #15

Matthew Hayward wrote: Consistent naming on the Relic Boots would be:

Boots of Protection +4

To match Ring of Protection +4:

tokendb.com/token/ring-of-protection-4/

This would allow a future +X Boots of Protection at Rare to be made.

Given where we are starting (2AC at UR), I hope we never make a rare version. It would be basically boots of protection +1 and would be strictly inferior to boots of agility / speed / burglar.

In historic theme from the slot, it might make more sense to be 3 Dex + no surprise at UR, 5 at relic and 7 at legendary. I question the Wisdom in pointing that out though given what version of tokens we are on.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #16

Yes, 2/3/5 on the Bead please.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #17

Give George Michael a shout out and call it the Bead of Careless Whispers.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #18

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: Consistent naming on the Relic Boots would be:

Boots of Protection +4

To match Ring of Protection +4:

tokendb.com/token/ring-of-protection-4/

This would allow a future +X Boots of Protection at Rare to be made.

Given where we are starting (2AC at UR), I hope we never make a rare version. It would be basically boots of protection +1 and would be strictly inferior to boots of agility / speed / burglar.

In historic theme from the slot, it might make more sense to be 3 Dex + no surprise at UR, 5 at relic and 7 at legendary. I question the Wisdom in pointing that out though given what version of tokens we are on.


This would be more in line with previous boot for sure, the marauder boots are dex and a kicker, Mithral are dex and a kicker.

I wonder if these 6ac boots were “to keep the recipie down” though and to allow future boots in the space also? If the recipie is 2022+ then I suspect ac only boots would get made even less. If it is more in line with older recipes it is a fine legendary as is and allows consideration of another legendary to come by at some point.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #19

Ian Lee wrote: Back by default has one slot and is mostly about general saves.

Bead has three slots and has been kind of about specific saves.

Just seems like having bead be just as good as cloak transmute path is too much. +2/3/5 isn't bad.


I changed the Beads to 2/3/5. Thanks all!
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #20

Matthew Hayward wrote: Consistent naming on the Relic Boots would be:

Boots of Protection +4

To match Ring of Protection +4:

tokendb.com/token/ring-of-protection-4/

This would allow a future +X Boots of Protection at Rare to be made.


Good point...but I am willing to leave it as is. We did not do it with the Legendary Cloak.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #21

Thanks all! I changed the Boots to include the Surprise at all levels, and the Relic and Legendary Beads have been set at +3 and +5.

Thanks for all the amazing help...and patience!
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #22

Jeff, do the Beads stack?
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #23

Fiddy wrote: Jeff, do the Beads stack?


Oh, good point. I will add a restriction. Will that be the first time for a Relic+ Legendary combo?
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Final Transmuted Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #24

Jeff Martin wrote:

Fiddy wrote: Jeff, do the Beads stack?


Oh, good point. I will add a restriction. Will that be the first time for a Relic+ Legendary combo?

Last year's Havoc rings do not stack:
tokendb.com/token/muks-greater-ring-of-havoc/
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