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TOPIC: 2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images

2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 2 months 2 weeks ago #85

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: Much better than last round! I like the changes hopefully it's done.

Wishful thinking requests:
Round 2 Death Die art was better
Phoenix, open up to all classes


Healing others shouldn't be for everyone... maybe open up to Bard and Druid? and maybe Ranger?
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 2 months 2 weeks ago #86

Beertram wrote:

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: Much better than last round! I like the changes hopefully it's done.

Wishful thinking requests:
Round 2 Death Die art was better
Phoenix, open up to all classes


Healing others shouldn't be for everyone... maybe open up to Bard and Druid? and maybe Ranger?


If you are going to change how the token works, then it should be a new token and not a reprint, which for practical and tokendb purposes should always be identical.

Phil
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 2 months 2 weeks ago #87

Fiddy wrote: How to never discuss UR TEs again while most of those currently commenting are still alive.

Step 1: Set a treasure cap of something like 27 (assuming CoA2 gives 10. Adjust cap dependent on what CoA2 actually gives).

Step 2: print the necessary 2023, 2025, and 2027 UR TEs to make the CoA2. Allowing a cheaper recipe using 2023, 2025 and AoTF.

Step 3: for the next 48 years print a new slotless +1 Treasure UR every other year. Every X years offer transmutes to consolidate the past X years tokens to cut down on weight/storage

Benefit 1: This provides multiple ways for people to get to max treasure.
Benefit 2: Vets that want to have a reason to keep buying TEs (to free up slots).
Benefit 3: People that have held onto the AoTF get a benefit for doing so, while others are not shut out
Benefit 4: as vets hit max treasure and want to free up slots, things like the nuggets re-enter circulation at a higher rate, and even CoAs eventually are likely to regularly re-enter circulation as people shift to their slotless TEs.
Benefit 5: Treasure dilution should stabilize
Benefit 6: as I mentioned, we don't have to talk about TEs again for 50 years or so.


+1, yes pls.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 2 months 2 weeks ago #88

Endgame wrote:

Flik wrote: I can support making them just x3 all crits. Trading off +4 str gloves makes for some diversity.

Currently I believe it would be possible for a benrows Throw Monk to double 3x crits for a hair under 400 damage in one round. Need to double check

Edit: I was wrong. Highest possible without using consumables is 354 on a double 3x crit using this build:
tdcharactercreator.com/#/character/edit/716ec3b3-4660-43fc-993f-0910f86bbe58


Maybe leave the monk and Ranger off if the two attacks are the real problem.

The truth is the assassins crossbow already is in the game and already works with the extended crit range. And the rogues are not exactly lighting it up damage wise currently. I’m a rogue main these days, I do have the legendary. If the 3x only works on a 20 then that is a token that will almost never trigger given how small a target they like to make the 20. If this token was printed as is, the only way I see there being a demand is if it is part of a legendary transmute like the amulet of aiming this year. Heck if it got printed with 3x damage on crits, then amulet of aiming becomes an lower mid level token instead of a trash token like it currently is.

I was hoping for an assassins crossbow reprint since they are a nightmare to find and when you do people are asking stupid prices. Over the last few years tokens like that have been getting either reprinted or a functional reprint. I’d be ok with a functional reprint of the crossbow but with a different name.

I feel I am making valid and reasonable arguments, this is a token that if made right I want, if made the current way shown is junk 99% of the time.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 2 months 2 weeks ago #89

Please do not open up Phoenix to all classes. It’s too powerful for an entire 10 stack to equip it. Keep the reprint as is and reprint some of the other class specific ones that are expensive and in need of a reprint in the future years.
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