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TOPIC: 2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images

2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #1

We tried again to provide a lot of general use tokens in the Ultra Rare rarity. The Arcane Charm is part of the Arcane Set. Clerics can use the Rare Sun Dagger and Ultra Rare +2 Sun Scimitar because they are not true bladed weapons. Rather, these weapons are magical non-edge manifestations of holy fire that Clerics are happy to bring onto an adventure.

Please let me know your input on the specifics on these items. Thanks!

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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #2

Excited for the TE in the Bead slot

IS at +2 regen seems much better, and can't wait for Grunnel's Funnel!

Phil
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #3

I would prefer ring of sacred wrath in Charm, bead, or ioun stone slot.
Keep those classic elemental resistance rings special.

Though I get those who think opposed.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #4

I just updated the file to correct some errors that were found right after posting. Thanks all. If you have seen this page before, you may have to refresh your cache.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #5

Thanks, Jeff!

Great looking set of tokens! I'm glad the TE token is at the Bead slot now, and I think +3 Treasure Chips is a good amount for it.

If there is going to be a Tome slot in the future that limits the amount of Tomes that can be equipped, would the Book of Useful Scrolls count as a Tome or remain slotless?

Also, can the Rogue use the Bead of Whispers to pass a Skill test they've already failed, or does it need to be on Skill test that hasn't been attempted yet?

Thanks!
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #6

should Acherin's and Arcane Charm say "Ranged" instead of "Range"?

Book of Useful Scrolls wording feels awkward. Perhaps "Use Common-Uncommon Scroll as Free Action without turning it in"?

very happy Cloak of Retribution is still here! And I'm fine with Ring of Sacred Wrath being a ring :)
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #7

Comparing Book of Useful Scrolls to Carter's Tome, I think it's underpowered. Carter's lets you recast a 2nd level or lower spell as a scroll once per day. Given that, it seems like the Book of Useful Scrolls could be Rare or lower. A rare scroll seems pretty comparable to a 2nd level spell. Maybe a bit less powerful, but more versatile.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #8

Bead really needs to be at +2 Chips max. All the Ioin Stones are at +2, why make the Bead +3??

For the Necklace should the classes be listed that can use it?
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 4 weeks ago #9

1. Druegar's Death Die can say "1/game" instead of "1 roll/game" I think.

2. Lenses of greater Foe Sight is still too good in my opinion.

For top end rogues it works out to +8 damage in the first two rounds of combat and +3 for the remaining rounds.

Consider making the sneak attack buff +5 damage after you successfully sneak attack 1/game or something.

I also think this token would sell just fine at +2 to damage, or +1 to hit and +1 to damage.

3. I do not like that the Shirt of the Shrewd being the only shirt ingredient with a real, guaranteed downside of -1 saves instead of -1 to a single stat which half the time does nothing at all, and the rest of the time causes debuffs that may be largely irrelevant. I would make the debuf here -1 to hit, or -4 hp.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #10

Rob F wrote: Bead really needs to be at +2 Chips max. All the Ioin Stones are at +2, why make the Bead +3?


I think this is the 2nd TE generation analogue to ring of riches now rather than the cogf analogue it was in an earlier draft. In that regard it is giving newer players access to the same 3 treasure benefit older players have had.

That said, the horn of plenty analogue (aotf) offers only 2/3 the benefit, so I guess that could be seen as a standard for what 2nd gen TE should do.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #11

I don’t think we need to make every TE from now only only +2, especially one that will be crafted into a new legendary. I wouldn’t mind a synergy effect but if we can’t get that nothing wrong with +3 imo.
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2023 Ultra Rare Beta Token Images 9 months 3 weeks ago #12

Mike Steele wrote: Comparing Book of Useful Scrolls to Carter's Tome, I think it's underpowered. Carter's lets you recast a 2nd level or lower spell as a scroll once per day. Given that, it seems like the Book of Useful Scrolls could be Rare or lower. A rare scroll seems pretty comparable to a 2nd level spell. Maybe a bit less powerful, but more versatile.


At once a game I would prefer to just have the scroll level removed. It does seem underwhelming.
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