TOPIC: 2021 Cleric Relic/Legendary Almost Final!

Mike Steele wrote: Hi Jeff, thanks again for letting us participate.

I still think incorporating the UR Elixir of Life ability into the Relic is overpowered, and if it stays I'll probably outfit our Cleric with this.

16-20 on Divine Intervention seems pretty broken, it seems like auto-granting the special abilities on the max hit could lead to a lot of instant kills.

Players with auto-kill weapons will still have to slide the usual 20 for the auto-kill to trigger. Divine Intervention just rotates the tokens so that the damage lines up. But the slides happen after the Divine Intervention is activated. So it isn't like the Cleric can trigger it knowing that someone is already on the 20.

I honestly think you're the only one saying the cleric items are OP.

Flik wrote: I honestly think you're the only one saying the cleric items are OP.

A free Fallen Star or Gem of Last Hope 1/game can be incredibly powerful at Relic.

It also takes a lot away from the value of Sacrifice for the Paladin.

It's fine, raising the dead is something Clerics do, but it is quite powerful.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Flik wrote: I honestly think you're the only one saying the cleric items are OP.

A free Fallen Star or Gem of Last Hope 1/game can be incredibly powerful at Relic.

It also takes a lot away from the value of Sacrifice for the Paladin.

It's fine, raising the dead is something Clerics do, but it is quite powerful.

On Epic we've still got a decent chance to use up the Cleric power, Paladin sacrifice, and still be feeding some people consumables.

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Flik wrote: I honestly think you're the only one saying the cleric items are OP.

A free Fallen Star or Gem of Last Hope 1/game can be incredibly powerful at Relic.

It also takes a lot away from the value of Sacrifice for the Paladin.

It's fine, raising the dead is something Clerics do, but it is quite powerful.

On Epic we've still got a decent chance to use up the Cleric power, Paladin sacrifice, and still be feeding some people consumables.

Agreed, I didnt say it was OP, just that the relic is powerful.

I like it, I'll definitely make sure our group has one ( or more depending on participants).

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Flik wrote: I honestly think you're the only one saying the cleric items are OP.

A free Fallen Star or Gem of Last Hope 1/game can be incredibly powerful at Relic.

It also takes a lot away from the value of Sacrifice for the Paladin.

It's fine, raising the dead is something Clerics do, but it is quite powerful.

On Epic we've still got a decent chance to use up the Cleric power, Paladin sacrifice, and still be feeding some people consumables.

Agreed, I didnt say it was OP, just that the relic is powerful.

I like it, I'll definitely make sure our group has one ( or more depending on participants).

How could your group use more than one?

Jeff Martin wrote: Divine Intervention
11-15: All characters are immediately healed 10 hp & on the NEXT combat round all characters have their sliders turned to max damage (if they did not slide it naturally). Sliders that are turned (because the highest number was not naturally slide) do not get any of the special attack bonuses that come with a max damage number facing the dot. For instance, some "insta-kill" weapons will auto-kill certain monsters on max damage slides.

Just to verify; a player can decline this ability, correct? I'm thinking assassin or paladin who slide their special damage value that is NOT max damage - can they choose to keep lower number so they can get special ability?

I liked someone's earlier suggestion that a natural 1 is Your god is angry with you. The cleric takes 10 pts. of Divine damage.

Beertram wrote: I liked someone's earlier suggestion that a natural 1 is Your god is angry with you. The cleric takes 10 pts. of Divine damage.

Nah, on a 1 "All Druids in any Dungeon take 1 point of damage"

Fiddy wrote:

Beertram wrote: I liked someone's earlier suggestion that a natural 1 is Your god is angry with you. The cleric takes 10 pts. of Divine damage.

Nah, on a 1 "All Druids in any Dungeon take 1 point of damage"

On a 1 the Cleric gets no treasure this run... still heals 10 to all...

Beertram wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Beertram wrote: I liked someone's earlier suggestion that a natural 1 is Your god is angry with you. The cleric takes 10 pts. of Divine damage.

Nah, on a 1 "All Druids in any Dungeon take 1 point of damage"

On a 1 the Cleric gets no treasure this run... still heals 10 to all...

Deals 10 damage to all, cleric gets +10 treasure. Mandatory Tithe.

How does the timing work on the full heal. Is it an action, free action, instant action?