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TOPIC: 2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two

2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #25

David Zych wrote:

Flik wrote: Great changes to the cleric relic (and UR). That progression up to the legendary now makes complete sense. I don't think you'll be getting many complaints about anything on it now!


100% excited for these Cleric tokens! Take my money now. :)


Be careful. Unlike most (all?) other class Relics/Legendaries, it looks like the UR powers aren't part of the Relic/Legendary. So you'll need to equip the UR Charm as well for full benefit.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #26

Fiddy wrote:

David Zych wrote:

Flik wrote: Great changes to the cleric relic (and UR). That progression up to the legendary now makes complete sense. I don't think you'll be getting many complaints about anything on it now!


100% excited for these Cleric tokens! Take my money now. :)


Be careful. Unlike most (all?) other class Relics/Legendaries, it looks like the UR powers aren't part of the Relic/Legendary. So you'll need to equip the UR Charm as well for full benefit.


Perfect! Take even more of my money!
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #27

Cleric Relic should say "and" where it says "or".
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #28

Should the Necklace of Sacred Beads read "May cast 2nd level Spells AND Restore Spell as a Free Action," if the cleric can do both?
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #29

Bake it into the relic and legendary for the cleric like the wizard. Change the wizard UR to do same as cleric on 1st level spells and +3 bonus on success skill test.

Both classes benefit from having to equip a charm with the relic or legendary. Win-win.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #30

Brokkr wrote: Should the Necklace of Sacred Beads read "May cast 2nd level Spells AND Restore Spell as a Free Action," if the cleric can do both?


Same issue on the UR. We hope it was likely meant as and instead of or.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #31

I love how Jeff fixed the 'ranged shield' cheese.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #32

Harlax wrote: New power on Fighter Legendary is a watered down version of Fight After Death. Its a Barbarian theme.

I honestly can't remember the last time I died prior to Room 7. This is extremely situational.

If we are going to move away from expanded crit, I like the so called "swift strike" better.


I also feel like the fight after death feels more like a barbarian thing.

I second that we should trade the death fighting for either expanded crit range or "swift strike"
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #33

Beertram wrote: Will mages be skipping the memory test now???


Yay for slowing down combat?
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #34

Cleric transmute: not a fan of effectively having to give up Neck plus Charm for full effect of transmute path unlike other classes. But if that's what the needed cost is, I'll pay it to get these effects.

Fighter transmute: like it overall except the one round of combat after death. Feels a bit weak and as mentioned already it starts to step on Barbarian.

Wizard transmute: this incarnation leaves me thinking that Wizard may be the only class transmute I don't try to make. As a class dabbler, I don't have the headspace to memorize every class's skill test. So Relic gives nothing to me over UR. And while Legendary would give me something, that's a pretty heavy toll to pay just for 4 FA extra spells.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #35

Mage Medallion - I like the boost to making spell checks more powerful. The loss of the Free Action spells really hurts.

Could we add "May cast level 0 spells as a Free Action"

That gives us back a bit of that free action love?

Edit:

Maybe

"May cast a level 0/1 spell as a free action 1/room"
Last edit: by Arcanist Kolixela.
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2021 Transmuted Feedback Part Two 5 months 4 weeks ago #36

Beertram wrote: I love how Jeff fixed the 'ranged shield' cheese.


I’m ok with that. It makes one hand versus two handed a strategic choice with a trade off.
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