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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #13

Harlax wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: OK - I know I just said these look good a second ago, but:

4* Waist slot Belt of Blessed Constitution is +2 CON.

4* Ale Drinker's Bead is +3 CON.

That seems out of whack to me.

Maybe belt off blessed constitution should have been 3 CON like belt of ogre mage power was 3 STR? Too late now though.

For the ring, I think I would prefer to see 3 Dex as 6 Ref save is most of the power of a legendary ring. Let me round out Dex on a ring slot, and put some competition on some of those damage rings slot wise.


3 Dex gets you no more Reflex than the rare Ring. Maybe less if you aren't on an odd number. It does get you other things like AC and Ranged hit.

Exactly.

If I wanted the ref save, I could go with the rare ring. If I really really wanted +6 ref, I could try to get the legendary.

If I want +Dex in the ring slot, I can get +1 now. I would love to get +3 for bumping my cleric’s abysmal 11 Dex up a notch. Someday I may get a +5 ring of focus, but, that won’t be today, or the next year, or maybe ever. In the mean time, I could have a nice Dex boost.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #14

Harlax wrote: Hoping Ring of Fortitude and Ring of Iron Will get similar light blues in the future..


Ring of Fortitude was just last year. I realize last year was before the Apocalypse. But, it was +6 Fort saves and people managed to argue that into +2 Con, instead, which also meant using a different name than Ring of Greater Fortitude or Greater Ring of Fortitude or whatever instead of Stamina [appears to always have been Stamina, though].

I can't wait for the Ring of Will of Steel to start out with +6 Will saves only to end up in an argument over what Wisdom will do in the future and end up being something like +2 STR because Iron is strong or something.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #15

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: OK - I know I just said these look good a second ago, but:

4* Waist slot Belt of Blessed Constitution is +2 CON.

4* Ale Drinker's Bead is +3 CON.

That seems out of whack to me.

Maybe belt off blessed constitution should have been 3 CON like belt of ogre mage power was 3 STR? Too late now though.

For the ring, I think I would prefer to see 3 Dex as 6 Ref save is most of the power of a legendary ring. Let me round out Dex on a ring slot, and put some competition on some of those damage rings slot wise.


Ogre Mage Power is a 4* transmute, not 3.

Agree with Ian. Let's leave this ring as is before it gets nerfed down to +2 DEX
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #16

I like the 2021 Light Blue Transmutes as is.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #17

Arnold wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: OK - I know I just said these look good a second ago, but:

4* Waist slot Belt of Blessed Constitution is +2 CON.

4* Ale Drinker's Bead is +3 CON.

That seems out of whack to me.

Maybe belt off blessed constitution should have been 3 CON like belt of ogre mage power was 3 STR? Too late now though.

For the ring, I think I would prefer to see 3 Dex as 6 Ref save is most of the power of a legendary ring. Let me round out Dex on a ring slot, and put some competition on some of those damage rings slot wise.


Ogre Mage Power is a 4* transmute, not 3.

Agree with Ian. Let's leave this ring as is before it gets nerfed down to +2 DEX

Certainly would prefer +6 ref over +2 Dex. Give me +3 Dex over +6 ref though.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #18

Endgame wrote:

Arnold wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: OK - I know I just said these look good a second ago, but:

4* Waist slot Belt of Blessed Constitution is +2 CON.

4* Ale Drinker's Bead is +3 CON.

That seems out of whack to me.

Maybe belt off blessed constitution should have been 3 CON like belt of ogre mage power was 3 STR? Too late now though.

For the ring, I think I would prefer to see 3 Dex as 6 Ref save is most of the power of a legendary ring. Let me round out Dex on a ring slot, and put some competition on some of those damage rings slot wise.


Ogre Mage Power is a 4* transmute, not 3.

Agree with Ian. Let's leave this ring as is before it gets nerfed down to +2 DEX

Certainly would prefer +6 ref over +2 Dex. Give me +3 Dex over +6 ref though.


Ring of Anointed is +1. UR would probably be +3. I can't imagine an UR ring giving +4.

4* is supposed to be the space between the two, right?
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #19

Arnold wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Arnold wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: OK - I know I just said these look good a second ago, but:

4* Waist slot Belt of Blessed Constitution is +2 CON.

4* Ale Drinker's Bead is +3 CON.

That seems out of whack to me.

Maybe belt off blessed constitution should have been 3 CON like belt of ogre mage power was 3 STR? Too late now though.

For the ring, I think I would prefer to see 3 Dex as 6 Ref save is most of the power of a legendary ring. Let me round out Dex on a ring slot, and put some competition on some of those damage rings slot wise.


Ogre Mage Power is a 4* transmute, not 3.

Agree with Ian. Let's leave this ring as is before it gets nerfed down to +2 DEX

Certainly would prefer +6 ref over +2 Dex. Give me +3 Dex over +6 ref though.


Ring of Anointed is +1. UR would probably be +3. I can't imagine an UR ring giving +4.

4* is supposed to be the space between the two, right?

There are no UR stat rings. The 4* could just be where the stat rings stop.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #20

Looks good, I like all of the changes on these!
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #21

Continuing the thought train on where + stats rings should be.

UR rings have +3 damage (melee or ranged) or +2 to multiple modes. An existing 4 star ring of frost gives the same benefit as a Drake’s, but to a limited mode of combat.

A 4* could easily be +3 stats for exactly half the damage bonus (ex, a +3 str 4* ring would add 1.5 hit and 1.5 damage) of URs.

In the future, there could be +3 hit rings if desired, or +2 hit with some other benefit.

All this says to me that a +3 Dex ring would be ok. It also doesn’t intridue on the legendary ring for whatever market is left for that ring.
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #22

I may have missed this but did we confirm the Tankard is slotless?
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #23

Thinking about the tankard - who wouldn't like to celebrate more?

Maybe change it to:

Heal 2 on 20 for init
Heal 2 when 20 slid
Heal 2 when puzzle solved

What can you say, we like to celebrate!
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2021 Light Blue Transmutes 4 years 3 months ago #24

Endgame wrote: Thinking about the tankard - who wouldn't like to celebrate more?

Maybe change it to:

Heal 2 on 20 for init
Heal 2 when 20 slid
Heal 2 when puzzle solved

What can you say, we like to celebrate!


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