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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #121

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As someone who (occasionally) keeps an eye on good Rogue weapons, I want to Second/Third/Octillianth the request for a reprint of:

--> Nightshades +2 ShortSword

(Yeah, yeah, I'm biased... and that's why I haven't been really, really pushing it in the past.)

But over the last couple years, I've had a significant number of folks asking me if I had a spare, or knew where they could get one... and I've either sold or given away every spare which I had collected, and I've still got a list in the double digits of folks who want me to let them know if I see one for sale.

So, a quick review:

* Nightshade's +2 Shortsword was printed in 2007
* Has not been reprinted in 13 years (will be 14, for 2021)
* Is considered among the best Rogue Weapons
* Remains competitive with other UR shortsword/dagger weapons
* Is a fantastic "00" pull for newbies (good for most melee classes; highly tradeable)
* Is not part of any Relic/Legendary recipe
* There's no rules against reprinting "named" tokens (Widseth's Lute was reprinted 2015)
* Is the ONLY Honorarily named UR not available in ONYX
* Would look absolutely Kick-Ass in ONYX
* Saves Jeff from having to find new art, as it already exists in an old file... right?
* Bears the Stamp of Approval of the Greyhawk Thieves Guild for reprint potential.

There are a fair number of folks who seem to be in agreement....

Endgame wrote: UR
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Flik wrote: Please please please reprint Nightshade's +2 Short Sword. It's not overpowered and it's impossible to find.

Dergidan wrote: +1 this.
I have one, but I'd LOVE a chance to get it in ONYX.

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword (with Raphael's 17+ crit on sneak and 2x sneak per round there is a large gap between melee Rogues with and without this token)

Lequinian wrote: +1 for the crossbow and/or nightshades.

Matthew Hayward wrote: +1 to all of these:
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Iross wrote: Ultra Rare:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Bob Chasan wrote: Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword
Mostly Borrowed from Endgame's post but agree these are all high on the list.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Definitely +1 to
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Jason Robb wrote: +1 to
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Fred K wrote: Reprints:
UR
+2 nightshades

BeLinda Mathie wrote: My reprint requests:
UR
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I would say the most asked for reprints are
(snip)
7. Nightshade's +2 Short Sword


Thank you for your time ;)
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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #122

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Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Dergidan wrote:

OrionW wrote: I would like to see a few class specific reprints included.

For druids:
Bowl of Spirit Sight

For druids and rangers:
Figurine of Power: Owl

For wizards:
Mad Evoker’s Charm

I don't expect to see all of these, but it would be nice if every year includes a class specific UR so those hard to find items don't become impossible to find.


+1 to this concept.

I was thrilled when Libram of Looting was reprinted, it allowed me to get a class token at PYP price. I'm sure there are a lot of Wizards out there that would love to have ready access to Mad Evoker's Charm, and there must be tokens like this for every class.

A couple slots available each year for reprints like this would benefit new players and give them a path to upgrades.


I like this concept.

As a Wizard main I would prefer to see the +2 Staff of Power finally get it's reprint this year and do the Mad Evokers in a year or so. +2 SoP is desirable and completely unavailable. MEC is desirable and minorly available.


+1 to this.

I know we can't reprint all the cool stuff all the time, but keeping...say... one reprint slot per year available for a class-specific reprint (especially if that class isn't getting any special love via another UR or Transmute in the same year) would be most excellent.
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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #123

Raven wrote: As someone who (occasionally) keeps an eye on good Rogue weapons, I want to Second/Third/Octillianth the request for a reprint of:

--> Nightshades +2 ShortSword

(Yeah, yeah, I'm biased... and that's why I haven't been really, really pushing it in the past.)

But over the last couple years, I've had a significant number of folks asking me if I had a spare, or knew where they could get one... and I've either sold or given away every spare which I had collected, and I've still got a list in the double digits of folks who want me to let them know if I see one for sale.

So, a quick review:

* Nightshade's +2 Shortsword was printed in 2007
* Has not been reprinted in 13 years (will be 14, for 2021)
* Is considered among the best Rogue Weapons
* Remains competitive with other UR shortsword/dagger weapons
* Is a fantastic "00" pull for newbies (good for most melee classes; highly tradeable)
* Is not part of any Relic/Legendary recipe
* There's no rules against reprinting "named" tokens (Widseth's Lute was reprinted 2015)
* Is the ONLY Honorarily named UR not available in ONYX
* Would look absolutely Kick-Ass in ONYX
* Saves Jeff from having to find new art, as it already exists in an old file... right?
* Bears the Stamp of Approval of the Greyhawk Thieves Guild for reprint potential.

There are a fair number of folks who seem to be in agreement....

Endgame wrote: UR
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Flik wrote: Please please please reprint Nightshade's +2 Short Sword. It's not overpowered and it's impossible to find.

Dergidan wrote: +1 this.
I have one, but I'd LOVE a chance to get it in ONYX.

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword (with Raphael's 17+ crit on sneak and 2x sneak per round there is a large gap between melee Rogues with and without this token)

Lequinian wrote: +1 for the crossbow and/or nightshades.

Matthew Hayward wrote: +1 to all of these:
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Iross wrote: Ultra Rare:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Bob Chasan wrote: Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword
Mostly Borrowed from Endgame's post but agree these are all high on the list.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Definitely +1 to
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Jason Robb wrote: +1 to
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Fred K wrote: Reprints:
UR
+2 nightshades

BeLinda Mathie wrote: My reprint requests:
UR
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I would say the most asked for reprints are
(snip)
7. Nightshade's +2 Short Sword


Thank you for your time ;)


Agreed on everything... Except... Wouldn't it be even better if Nightshade's +2 Short Sword came in Sapphire instead of Onyx?

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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #124

Fiddy wrote:

Raven wrote: As someone who (occasionally) keeps an eye on good Rogue weapons, I want to Second/Third/Octillianth the request for a reprint of:

--> Nightshades +2 ShortSword

(Yeah, yeah, I'm biased... and that's why I haven't been really, really pushing it in the past.)

But over the last couple years, I've had a significant number of folks asking me if I had a spare, or knew where they could get one... and I've either sold or given away every spare which I had collected, and I've still got a list in the double digits of folks who want me to let them know if I see one for sale.

So, a quick review:

* Nightshade's +2 Shortsword was printed in 2007
* Has not been reprinted in 13 years (will be 14, for 2021)
* Is considered among the best Rogue Weapons
* Remains competitive with other UR shortsword/dagger weapons
* Is a fantastic "00" pull for newbies (good for most melee classes; highly tradeable)
* Is not part of any Relic/Legendary recipe
* There's no rules against reprinting "named" tokens (Widseth's Lute was reprinted 2015)
* Is the ONLY Honorarily named UR not available in ONYX
* Would look absolutely Kick-Ass in ONYX
* Saves Jeff from having to find new art, as it already exists in an old file... right?
* Bears the Stamp of Approval of the Greyhawk Thieves Guild for reprint potential.

There are a fair number of folks who seem to be in agreement....

Endgame wrote: UR
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Flik wrote: Please please please reprint Nightshade's +2 Short Sword. It's not overpowered and it's impossible to find.

Dergidan wrote: +1 this.
I have one, but I'd LOVE a chance to get it in ONYX.

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword (with Raphael's 17+ crit on sneak and 2x sneak per round there is a large gap between melee Rogues with and without this token)

Lequinian wrote: +1 for the crossbow and/or nightshades.

Matthew Hayward wrote: +1 to all of these:
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Iross wrote: Ultra Rare:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Bob Chasan wrote: Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword
Mostly Borrowed from Endgame's post but agree these are all high on the list.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Definitely +1 to
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Jason Robb wrote: +1 to
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Fred K wrote: Reprints:
UR
+2 nightshades

BeLinda Mathie wrote: My reprint requests:
UR
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I would say the most asked for reprints are
(snip)
7. Nightshade's +2 Short Sword


Thank you for your time ;)


Agreed on everything... Except... Wouldn't it be even better if Nightshade's +2 Short Sword came in Sapphire instead of Onyx?


If there was a reprint, with a Relic version... (I know, not very likely)

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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #125

Raven wrote: As someone who (occasionally) keeps an eye on good Rogue weapons, I want to Second/Third/Octillianth the request for a reprint of:

--> Nightshades +2 ShortSword

(Yeah, yeah, I'm biased... and that's why I haven't been really, really pushing it in the past.)

But over the last couple years, I've had a significant number of folks asking me if I had a spare, or knew where they could get one... and I've either sold or given away every spare which I had collected, and I've still got a list in the double digits of folks who want me to let them know if I see one for sale.

So, a quick review:

* Nightshade's +2 Shortsword was printed in 2007
* Has not been reprinted in 13 years (will be 14, for 2021)
* Is considered among the best Rogue Weapons
* Remains competitive with other UR shortsword/dagger weapons
* Is a fantastic "00" pull for newbies (good for most melee classes; highly tradeable)
* Is not part of any Relic/Legendary recipe
* There's no rules against reprinting "named" tokens (Widseth's Lute was reprinted 2015)
* Is the ONLY Honorarily named UR not available in ONYX
* Would look absolutely Kick-Ass in ONYX
* Saves Jeff from having to find new art, as it already exists in an old file... right?
* Bears the Stamp of Approval of the Greyhawk Thieves Guild for reprint potential.

There are a fair number of folks who seem to be in agreement....

Endgame wrote: UR
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Flik wrote: Please please please reprint Nightshade's +2 Short Sword. It's not overpowered and it's impossible to find.

Dergidan wrote: +1 this.
I have one, but I'd LOVE a chance to get it in ONYX.

Matthew Hayward wrote: UR:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword (with Raphael's 17+ crit on sneak and 2x sneak per round there is a large gap between melee Rogues with and without this token)

Lequinian wrote: +1 for the crossbow and/or nightshades.

Matthew Hayward wrote: +1 to all of these:
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Iross wrote: Ultra Rare:
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Bob Chasan wrote: Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword
Mostly Borrowed from Endgame's post but agree these are all high on the list.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Definitely +1 to
(snip)
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Jason Robb wrote: +1 to
Nightshade’s +2 Short Sword

Fred K wrote: Reprints:
UR
+2 nightshades

BeLinda Mathie wrote: My reprint requests:
UR
Nightshade's +2 Short Sword

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I would say the most asked for reprints are
(snip)
7. Nightshade's +2 Short Sword


Thank you for your time ;)


Raven, excellent case for the reprint! The Stamp of Approval of the Greyhawk Thieves Guild alone is enough for me. :)

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Fiddy wrote: Agreed on everything... Except... Wouldn't it be even better if Nightshade's +2 Short Sword came in Sapphire instead of Onyx?


Well clearly.... YES.

But (as Derdigan pointed out) that would be getting into Relic territory.... and even *I* can't make a good case for a second Rogue Relic before the rest of the classes are done getting their class Relic/Legendaries.
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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #127

I'd be willing to do a Vanity transmute that was, say, a nightshade's and one of each Monster Trophy (evidence of your kills) to get a functionally identical sword on a Sapphire back.

But that's not likely either.

I'll have to settle for critting with it while wearing my Necklace of the Sneak , which does seem to hold a sapphire...

That is, if I can ever collect enough Strength boosting tokens to switch from my ranged build.

Still carry my Nightshade's every run even though my STR is 8.

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Re-Print Suggestions for all Rarities 3 years 8 months ago #128

Rare: Oil of Ghost Touch
Out of print since 2008. Fits with V3 and V5.

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These are the Reprints I would like to see, but I am only going to touch on URs

Twolf’s Helm of the Wild, Not Bis but it would be something cool for a newbie to pull
Nightshades Short Sword, yeah it is awesome, and I don't play a rogue
Wil’s Dragonheart
Mithral Gauntlets

But my personal hope is for my daughter to get her token someday
Figurine of Power: Phoenix

My daughter, Phoenix, has been playing at Origins for the last couple of years and liked it. She wanted to play Paladin, and I think if I could get her one of these for a PYP she would be ecstatic! If this gets reprinted that means I am going to have to go in to get her at least the relic sword... but it would be so worth it.

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Mike Coon wrote: These are the Reprints I would like to see, but I am only going to touch on URs

Twolf’s Helm of the Wild, Not Bis but it would be something cool for a newbie to pull
Nightshades Short Sword, yeah it is awesome, and I don't play a rogue
Wil’s Dragonheart
Mithral Gauntlets

But my personal hope is for my daughter to get her token someday
Figurine of Power: Phoenix

My daughter, Phoenix, has been playing at Origins for the last couple of years and liked it. She wanted to play Paladin, and I think if I could get her one of these for a PYP she would be ecstatic! If this gets reprinted that means I am going to have to go in to get her at least the relic sword... but it would be so worth it.


This is hands down the most honorable reason I've seen for a proposed reprint.

FOP: Phoenix gets a +1 from me.

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Matthew Galambus wrote:

Mike Coon wrote: These are the Reprints I would like to see, but I am only going to touch on URs

Twolf’s Helm of the Wild, Not Bis but it would be something cool for a newbie to pull
Nightshades Short Sword, yeah it is awesome, and I don't play a rogue
Wil’s Dragonheart
Mithral Gauntlets

But my personal hope is for my daughter to get her token someday
Figurine of Power: Phoenix

My daughter, Phoenix, has been playing at Origins for the last couple of years and liked it. She wanted to play Paladin, and I think if I could get her one of these for a PYP she would be ecstatic! If this gets reprinted that means I am going to have to go in to get her at least the relic sword... but it would be so worth it.


This is hands down the most honorable reason I've seen for a proposed reprint.

FOP: Phoenix gets a +1 from me.


why thank you :-)

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