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Final Notes About 2020 Tokens 1 month 2 days ago #1

Well...this is it. This is your last chance to find an error or correct some poor word usage for the 2020 Token Collection. I gotta send these off to the factory before Gen Con, and next week will be crazy. So...you have until 3:00pm Central on Friday 7/19 to let's us know your input.

Thank you all again for an exceptional great year of token design en masse. We did a great job I think, and we have a nice collection for all the new players that will be exposed to True Dungeon in 2020.

Changes in RED BOLD.

For several reasons, we decided to start and end the token development process in July rather than September. This may or may not affect the pre-order delivery time, but we will still start the pre-order time on Nov. 1st as before.

This is going to be a special year for TD adventures as we are starting a new story-arc. We'll present three stand-alone modules. The 2020 tokens center around these modules and they should be a lot of fun to play. One will be in the Underthing (the underbelly of a wizard school) in the world of Pat Rothfuss. Another is a classic haunted house adventure where players must banish a baneful presence. The third one tasks the group with surviving the legendary Tomb of Terrors.

UR "Arcane" Set: Wearing all three of these items grants a caster the power to not mark off the first 0th-2nd level spell that character casts in a game.

UR "Lucky" Set: Wearing any two of these items increases the wearer's maximum HP by 5.

Multi-Year UR Shirt Set: Over the next four years we plan to release four Shirts. The first three give bonus/penalties toward the STR, DEX, CON stats and the final year grants +2 Focus (+2 to cast healing spells, cast damage spells, and polymorph damage.) At the end of the four years, all four can be combined so they make one Shirt that gives +2 to all those 3 stats and has the Focus power.

The 4-Year Shirt is not an Eldritch item. We are capping the Eldritch set at five. It is time to forge a new line of multi-year tokens that hopefully will use hidden RFID chips to make some cool effects for the players. Any "set" benefits won't be manifest for many years (since it takes at least two of these multi-year tokens), but I would not rule out giving the first "Arcanum" multi-year token (light purple token that's coming in four years) a cool little RFID chip enabled ability. I have so many cool ideas.

Vets and Newbies
It's worth noting that the ranks of the Treasure Token collectors have swelled considerably in the past few years. While it is vital to always accommodate the wants/needs of veteran collectors, we also need to keep new players in mind. Some tokens might not be best in slot for veterans, but newer players might really enjoy something like a set of new Armor tokens. It is always a tough thing to balance all the various collector groups, so I could be wrong on some of the mix this year. Let me know if you think I did.

New Powers Mentioned on Transmuted Tokens
Animal Friend: Once per room, rangers can use any polymorph potion token to summon a spiritual animal friend for one room. The summoned creature can't be dispelled, damaged, or buffed. When attacking with a 2H projectile-firing missile weapon, the ranger player puts that polymorph token into the second slider and slides both in the same manner as a ranger normally would on a melee attack slide (one puck in each hand, slid simultaneously.) The spiritual animal friend uses the ranger's To Hit modifier as written on the party card. The damage done by the spiritual animal friend is determined solely by the amount shown on the polymorph token--damage is not subject to any modifiers whatsoever. The ranger does not get any "side bonuses" from the polymorph token. (E.g., a spiritual asp friend would not reduce the ranger's Poison damage received.) The polymorph token must be turned in at the end of combat like other polymorph potions normally would be.

Fury: One per game, barbarians (whether Raging or not) can announce that they are going to "Fury" before making their attack slide. If they hit, the damage done with that one slide is treated as a standard 2× critical hit. It does not count as a natural 20, it's "just" a crit. That said, a Fury-fueled attack that actually lands on the 20 spot still counts as a natural 20 and can trigger effects which require a natural 20.

Grace: Either once (relic) or twice (legendary) per game, a paladin may instantly activated her "Grace" power to allow the roll of TWO d20 dice for any saving throw and take the higher result. Whether Grace is used to affect a multi-person saving throw roll or an individual's saving throw is up to the paladin. The use of Grace must be declared before the die is rolled.[/color]

Psy. Pwr. (T-5): Assess to Tier 5 Psychic Power options. I.e., the monk could manifest any up to 5th tier Psychic Powers. Furthermore, the monk's legendary also grants one extra use of a Psychic Power. This stacks with other tokens that grant additional power manifestations.

Slot Expanders Cap
We've put a hard cap on the number of Charms (10) and Ioun Stones (9) one can equip. We feel it's important to rein-in future slot-expansion. At this time, only the Charm and Ioun Stone slots are being capped, but it's possible that at some point in the future we may need to cap other slots.
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Final Notes About 2020 Tokens 1 month 2 days ago #2

Thanks again to Jeff and company for all your hard work on the Tokens! I'm sure the month before the main Con is crazy busy and to tackle this as well is just insane. Thank you!!
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I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?
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Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it.


I'm not sure it is the same as what you mean, but Viper Strike set gave extra bonuses to Monk and Rogue despite being usable by other classes.
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Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?


With jeff’s Wording, my interpretation is that a monk wearing dark disciple’s shirt gets three uses of psychic per game.
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Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it.


I'm not sure it is the same as what you mean, but Viper Strike set gave extra bonuses to Monk and Rogue despite being usable by other classes.


Yes, but every class gets the +2 to hit, even wizards with their spells. The Monk and Rogue get more, but everyone gets something. Non-casters can still equip the Arcane set, but get no benefit.
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Kakitahan wrote:

Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?


With jeff’s Wording, my interpretation is that a monk wearing dark disciple’s shirt gets three uses of psychic per game.


That's usage. I'm talking the tier. If I have the Monk Legendary and two teeth, can I use the Tier 7 power?
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Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?


There have been sets before where not everyone could get the set bonus, like the Footman set (Barbarians' cant' wear the torso), Legendary Redoubt (only fighters and paladins can equip 3 legendary items).

I'm sure there are more.
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Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?


There have been sets before where not everyone could get the set bonus, like the Footman set (Barbarians' cant' wear the torso), Legendary Redoubt (only fighters and paladins can equip 3 legendary items).

I'm sure there are more.


But, like the Viper Set, not the same thing. In those cases, the player cannot even equip the items to get the set bonus. In this case, they can equip them but don't get anything.

Maybe I'm the only one who feels/thinks this. But it is a change, and I thought it needed to be brought.
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Xavon wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Xavon wrote: I still worry that the Arcane set is the first set not inclusive to all classes able to use it. And could be confusing with Arcanum.

Also, just to verify, can the Monk Legendary stack with teeth, presumably up to 7?


There have been sets before where not everyone could get the set bonus, like the Footman set (Barbarians' cant' wear the torso), Legendary Redoubt (only fighters and paladins can equip 3 legendary items).

I'm sure there are more.


But, like the Viper Set, not the same thing. In those cases, the player cannot even equip the items to get the set bonus. In this case, they can equip them but don't get anything.

Maybe I'm the only one who feels/thinks this. But it is a change, and I thought it needed to be brought.


You are 100% right about the feeling. I get it and agree.
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I don’t see a problem with some classes not being able to use the set bonus.

It might be the first time it happened but I don’t think that is a bad thing. It just means most physical dmg users don’t buy the belt (and stick to a str belt).
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