TOPIC: Notes about the 2020 Token Collection

Mike Steele wrote: Hi Jeff,

What if you made the Rare Mail of Luck (maybe change it to Lucky Mail, with the same bonuses) and the Rare +1 Wooden Shield (maybe change that to Lucky Shield at +2 AC and +1 Saves) part of the Lucky Set also? That way, someone could outfit two UR, or two Rare, or one of each and still get the Set bonus. And maybe add Druid back to the Rare Mail. That's a fun way to give the set bonus to different levels of token buyers.

Thanks,
Mike

I like the suggestion, but I think you might(?) want to have 1 UR to trigger a set bonus.

What if:
Lucky Mail and Lucky Half Plate were rare.

UR Lucky mail and lucky plate are dropped

Lucky shield stays as is in UR.

Add UR Lucky Helm (1 AC, immune to surprise)

Add some other non lucky UR

Lucky set:
2 item set bonus is +5 HP
3 item set bonus is +1 AC

jpotter wrote: Can anyone tell me what 'Fury' is?

All I can think of is

Maybe fury allows a second puck of 2 handed weapon once per combat...

something like what warriors from world of warcraft can do. dual wield 2 handed weapons

Endgame wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Hi Jeff,

What if you made the Rare Mail of Luck (maybe change it to Lucky Mail, with the same bonuses) and the Rare +1 Wooden Shield (maybe change that to Lucky Shield at +2 AC and +1 Saves) part of the Lucky Set also? That way, someone could outfit two UR, or two Rare, or one of each and still get the Set bonus. And maybe add Druid back to the Rare Mail. That's a fun way to give the set bonus to different levels of token buyers.

Thanks,
Mike

I like the suggestion, but I think you might(?) want to have 1 UR to trigger a set bonus.

What if:
Lucky Mail and Lucky Half Plate were rare.

UR Lucky mail and lucky plate are dropped

Lucky shield stays as is in UR.

Add UR Lucky Helm (1 AC, immune to surprise)

Add some other non lucky UR

Lucky set:
2 item set bonus is +5 HP
3 item set bonus is +1 AC

I like it personally as having the set bonus available at Rare, UR, or a mix, since it's not a bonus that is broken at the Rare level.

To pull something over from the other threads, it was mentioned that the reason we're doing the transmute in the shirt slot instead of the Ioun Stone slot is because in the Ioun Slot, with multiple Ioun Stones allowed, someone could outfit the transmuted Ioun Stone and one or more of the UR Ingredient Ioun Stones to stack their powers, as some people are doing with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command and one or more of the UR Elemental Rings.

I'd suggest all of the Multi-Year transmutes adopt the same rules the Rod of Seven Parts has, so that the Transmuted token isn't allowed to stack with the individual UR tokens that were part of it's recipe. That would prevent the Supreme Ring stacking, it would prevent individual Teeth from being stacked with the Eldritch Tooth of the Cavadar (preventing someone from having the Eldritch Tooth and still having up to seven individual Teeth for the Semi-Lich Skull), and it would allow us to create future Multi-Year transmutes in any slot and not just in slots like Shirt and Leg which only has one slot.

For this token, while I preferred it in the Ioun Stone slot, I'm OK with it in the Shirt slot now that it includes a +2 Focus ability.

Mike Steele wrote: To pull something over from the other threads, it was mentioned that the reason we're doing the transmute in the shirt slot instead of the Ioun Stone slot is because in the Ioun Slot, with multiple Ioun Stones allowed, someone could outfit the transmuted Ioun Stone and one or more of the UR Ingredient Ioun Stones to stack their powers, as some people are doing with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command and one or more of the UR Elemental Rings.

I'd suggest all of the Multi-Year transmutes adopt the same rules the Rod of Seven Parts has, so that the Transmuted token isn't allowed to stack with the individual UR tokens that were part of it's recipe. That would prevent the Supreme Ring stacking, it would prevent individual Teeth from being stacked with the Eldritch Tooth of the Cavadar (preventing someone from having the Eldritch Tooth and still having up to seven individual Teeth for the Semi-Lich Skull), and it would allow us to create future Multi-Year transmutes in any slot and not just in slots like Shirt and Leg which only has one slot.

I agree with this.

Mike Steele wrote: To pull something over from the other threads, it was mentioned that the reason we're doing the transmute in the shirt slot instead of the Ioun Stone slot is because in the Ioun Slot, with multiple Ioun Stones allowed, someone could outfit the transmuted Ioun Stone and one or more of the UR Ingredient Ioun Stones to stack their powers, as some people are doing with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command and one or more of the UR Elemental Rings.

I'd suggest all of the Multi-Year transmutes adopt the same rules the Rod of Seven Parts has, so that the Transmuted token isn't allowed to stack with the individual UR tokens that were part of it's recipe. That would prevent the Supreme Ring stacking, it would prevent individual Teeth from being stacked with the Eldritch Tooth of the Cavadar (preventing someone from having the Eldritch Tooth and still having up to seven individual Teeth for the Semi-Lich Skull), and it would allow us to create future Multi-Year transmutes in any slot and not just in slots like Shirt and Leg which only has one slot.

For this token, while I preferred it in the Ioun Stone slot, I'm OK with it in the Shirt slot now that it includes a +2 Focus ability.

Agreed.

Endgame wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: To pull something over from the other threads, it was mentioned that the reason we're doing the transmute in the shirt slot instead of the Ioun Stone slot is because in the Ioun Slot, with multiple Ioun Stones allowed, someone could outfit the transmuted Ioun Stone and one or more of the UR Ingredient Ioun Stones to stack their powers, as some people are doing with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command and one or more of the UR Elemental Rings.

I'd suggest all of the Multi-Year transmutes adopt the same rules the Rod of Seven Parts has, so that the Transmuted token isn't allowed to stack with the individual UR tokens that were part of it's recipe. That would prevent the Supreme Ring stacking, it would prevent individual Teeth from being stacked with the Eldritch Tooth of the Cavadar (preventing someone from having the Eldritch Tooth and still having up to seven individual Teeth for the Semi-Lich Skull), and it would allow us to create future Multi-Year transmutes in any slot and not just in slots like Shirt and Leg which only has one slot.

For this token, while I preferred it in the Ioun Stone slot, I'm OK with it in the Shirt slot now that it includes a +2 Focus ability.

Agreed.

Another agree.

Like the shirt change if we can substitute the shirt of focus I already have then winner winner.

Fiddy wrote:

jpotter wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

jpotter wrote: Looked at party cards and the Player's Handbook, and can't find an answer.

Can anyone tell me what 'Fury' is?

It's on the barbarian transmutes.

I think it must be Greater Rage and a mistake because 5th level Barbarian don't get Rage, they get Greater Rage.....this is just a thought.

The wording doesn't seem to go with that. But could just be a mistake.

Tokens say:
"+2 Rage use and fury (1/game)"

If they meant greater rage the better wording would be "+2 rage/fury use"

The current wording makes me think (hope) it's something new and neat since it has a separate usage rule versus the rage on the token.

I really wish Jeff believed in using the Oxford Comma. *Sigh*

Ditto!

Rob F wrote:

Endgame wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: To pull something over from the other threads, it was mentioned that the reason we're doing the transmute in the shirt slot instead of the Ioun Stone slot is because in the Ioun Slot, with multiple Ioun Stones allowed, someone could outfit the transmuted Ioun Stone and one or more of the UR Ingredient Ioun Stones to stack their powers, as some people are doing with the Supreme Ring of Elemental Command and one or more of the UR Elemental Rings.

I'd suggest all of the Multi-Year transmutes adopt the same rules the Rod of Seven Parts has, so that the Transmuted token isn't allowed to stack with the individual UR tokens that were part of it's recipe. That would prevent the Supreme Ring stacking, it would prevent individual Teeth from being stacked with the Eldritch Tooth of the Cavadar (preventing someone from having the Eldritch Tooth and still having up to seven individual Teeth for the Semi-Lich Skull), and it would allow us to create future Multi-Year transmutes in any slot and not just in slots like Shirt and Leg which only has one slot.

For this token, while I preferred it in the Ioun Stone slot, I'm OK with it in the Shirt slot now that it includes a +2 Focus ability.

Agreed.

Another agree.

I agree with the agree to agree plus I agree

James J Krot wrote: Like the shirt change if we can substitute the shirt of focus I already have then winner winner.

I Agree, perfer it as a shirt. Hope a focus swap will be allowed, but even if it's not focus for whatever the final shirt is shouldn't be to hard a trade to get so long as the bonus is otherwise the same