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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #1

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I hope you like the Rares! Thanks for the suggestions for improvement.

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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #2

Crosspost and updated.
+1 Adventurer's Staff: 4.83 Average damage. Staves are usually not usable by Bard and Rogue. Other Staves that Wizards can use cap at 4.5 average damage, so this is an increase.

+1 Assassin's Blade: 4.17 Average damage. Class usage matches +1 Iron Nettle. +1 Iron Nettle did 4.5 average damage, with bonus +3 damage to fey.

+1 Bastard Sword: Reprint. 6.3 Average damage. BIS is +1 Bliss Heavy Axe at 6.63 and +3 damage in Bliss.

+1 Claymore: 7.2 Average damage. New BIS over +1 Nether Dire Flail's 6.7 average damage.

+1 Heavy Mace: Reprint. 5.5 Average damage. On par with many weapons that deal 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Bow: Reprint. 4.33 Average damage. +1 War Sling can be used by more classes and does 5.5 average damage.

+1 Short Sword: Reprint. 4.5 Average damage. +1 Bliss Hammer is usable by all, does 5.5 average damage and +3 damage in Bliss.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #3

Overall looks really great, this is one of the best Rare sets in years!

- The Mail losing 1pt is a good compromise to make the UR more appealing.
- Vigor Amulet is too OP in my opinion, +3 max
- Sad to see the Vitality Shirt go but I get why.
- Make Shadow Cloak Transmutable again
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #4

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: - Make Shadow Cloak Transmutable again


I'd be excited for that too, but there is no precedent for a transmute returning like that =/
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #5

1) I love the +1 Assassin's Blade. Most exciting weapon since the +1 Blowgun Flute.
2) Amulet of Vigor: WAY too strong. Total of +4 to stats, with 2 of those strength and granting +4hp too. Compare to the (volunteer) Amulet of the Hero which only grants +3 between three stats. I think this should be +1 STR and +1 CON and that still makes it an incredible token especially for new players who have odd starting stats.
3) Earcuff of Vitality: good reprint, it is very hard to find them now
4) Gloves of Focus: nice
5) Lyre of Lore: another good reprint
6) Mighty Sling: another good reprint
7) Potion Death's Door: we just had Revival Root, isn't it too soon for another?
8) Quiver of Boosting: I'll use it (does it stack with Quiver of Anointment?)
9) Shadow Cloak: good reprint
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #6

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Kirk Bauer wrote: 8) Quiver of Boosting: I'll use it (does it stack with Quiver of Anointment?)


I hope not. Similar to how scrolls can only be stored in 1 scroll tube, I hope arrows can only be stored in 1 quiver.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #7

Kirk Bauer wrote: 2) Amulet of Vigor: WAY too strong. Total of +4 to stats, with 2 of those strength and granting +4hp too. Compare to the (volunteer) Amulet of the Hero which only grants +3 between three stats. I think this should be +1 STR and +1 CON and that still makes it an incredible token especially for new players who have odd starting stats.


Disagree completely that is is overpowered. Neck is the only location where a UR stat booster is 4 better than a Rare, and that rare was never in boosters - it was a volunteer token that will have been unavailable for 4 years.

At +4 to stats, Medallion of Valhalla is still +3 boost over the the rare - you don't see this in any other slot.

Examples:
Gauntlets of the Midgard Serpent are +3 str, Mithral Gauntlets are +4 and Gloves of the Brute are +4. 2 point differential.

Belt of the Berserker is the same Str as Girdle of Hill giant strength, and -1 from Girdle of Stone Giant Strength.

Time for Neck to be a powerful slot at rare as opposed to a "Pay to Play" slot.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #8

Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #9

Endgame wrote: Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7


That damage wheel will make the Assassin prestige class happy, 6's are everyone favorite (yes sarcasm) instant kills.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #10

Why did the wand damage drop to 7?
We already have wands that do 8 and it’s not breaking the game. I would like it to be restored to 8 damage so it matches the last few years wands.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #11

Just noticed the +1 Claymore. Now I want to go watch Highlander...

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To be clear, this is now like my favorite names rare token, like, ever. I may use a red build fighter just to use the Claymore.
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2020 Rare Beta Images 3 months 2 days ago #12

FiannaTiger wrote:

Endgame wrote: Oh, hey, +1 Assassins blade is FoB compatible! Its like a +1 Cestus, but with a better, and interesting, damage wheel at 2-2-2-6-6-7


That damage wheel will make the Assassin prestige class happy, 6's are everyone favorite (yes sarcasm) instant kills.

I know this is a joke, but I'm pretty sure we already have a rogue melee weapon with 2 6's on it.
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