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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #1

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We gave out some Medallions of Equipping after the GT run. These medallions don't take a slot, and real world medallions were given to players that could house a real token.

The rules:

1) Only a token that does not affect anything on the party card can be equipped for free in the medallion. That means anything that would effect things like saves or to-hits cannot be put into the medallion.

2) Also, no slot-expanding tokens maybe placed in the medallion. This was allowed at Gen Con due to a mis-communication, but it is not allowed henceforth. It is much too powerful if this is allowed.

3) After Origins, 2019, the necklaces get a different power. Anyone inserting a Medallion of Nobility or a Badge of Nobility will gain a damage reduction of 2 pts to all damage types except Eldritch. The "free" slot power is gone -- except for a few good sliders. About 5 players slid a natural 20 on the challenge, so they may select either the old power or the damage reduction power mentioned above for the remainder of forever.
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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #2

While I missed the GT run this year, I was excited to hear about the return of permanent bonuses.

Jeff - corner case rules questions:

1. Can items equipped here count toward set bonuses? I.e. could one put in Viper Stike Pants or Shirt and have it count towards the set? Or does it depend on whether the set bonus impacts the party card?

* If yes, can you equip the +1 Celestial Longsword or the +1 Mithal Longsword purely for their set bonus effects, assuming you also eqip a +1 or higher weapon so that the party card doesn't change?

2. I assume level granting items (i.e. Ring/Charm of Heroism) "affect the party card?"

3. How do Bard instruments work with this? Can a bard equip a 2 handed bard instrument (which doesn't affect the party card) in here, and also equip something in their hands? I.e. could a Bard put Amorgen's Amazing Ocarina in here and Widseth's Mystical Lute in their actual hands? If so, can they bardsong + read scroll + attack with a standard action?

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #3

I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #4

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.


Unfortunately belt of thorns is retribution damage, which is on the party card. All your other suggestions I think are awesome.
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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #5

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.


Great suggestions Matt. A few other thoughts:

- Since the permanent effect doesn't come into play until after Origins 2019 it sounds like the 2019 Token set will be options for consideration.

- Amulet of Wonder as a gamble?
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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #6

Rob F wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.


Great suggestions Matt. A few other thoughts:

- Since the permanent effect doesn't come into play until after Origins 2019 it sounds like the 2019 Token set will be options for consideration.

- Amulet of Wonder as a gamble?


If you want a slotless amulet of wonder, buy me a ticket for your runs ;)
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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #7

A permanent extra neck slot seems pretty overpowered, even for a gold ticket run. I hope that sort of thing isn't the norm now.

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #8

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.


I would add the following:

Ring of Regeneration
Cloack of Displacement
Divine Echo Charm
Dirtdazzy's Boots of Skipping
Druid's Wild Vestments
Earcuff of Energy
Gloves of Deflection
Hat of Healing
Ioun Stone Lavender Ellipsoid
Mad Evoker's Charm
Lenses of Sage Speed
Lenses of Clear Sight
Ring of Evasion
Ring of Wizardy
Viper Strike Pants
Shirt of the Underdark
Wil's Dragonheart
Widseth's Mystical Lute
Viper Strike Shirt

Adding those in and sorting the list it looks like:

Amulet of Guarding
Bracers of Guided Strike
Charm of Spell Swapping
Circlet of Elemental Mastery
Cloack of Displacement
Cloak of Blending
Cloak of Shadowskin
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Crown of Expertise
Dirtdazzy's Boots of Skipping
Divine Echo Charm
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Druid's Wild Vestments
Earcuff of Energy
Earcuff of Energy
Figurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack
Hat of Healing
Ioun Stone Lavender Ellipsoid
Lenses of Clear Sight
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Sage Speed
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Mad Evoker's Charm
Medallion of Mystic Mouth
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Evasion
Ring of Improved Evasion
Ring of Regeneration
Ring of Spell Storing
Ring of Wizardy
Shaed
Shirt of the Fae
Shirt of the Underdark
Viper Strike Pants
Viper Strike Shirt
Widseth's Mystical Lute
Wil's Dragonheart

Note these are just UR there are certainly more C/UC/Rare that might be nice.

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #9

Matthew Hayward wrote: I like how this gives some unloved tokens a great boost - it looks like these are great pickups for those with a permanent effects:

Medallion of Mystic Mouth,
Cloak of Shadowskin,
Belt of Thorns,
Ring of Improved Evasion,
Amulet of Guarding,
Bracers of Guided Strike,
Charm of Spell Swapping,
Cloak of Blending,
Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack,
Dragon Tooth Amulet
Circlet of Elemental Mastery,
Crown of Expertise,
Coronet of the Arch Druid
Shirt of the Fae
Earcuff of Energy
AFigurine of Power
Gloves of Deflection
Gloves of the Flying Fist
Lenses of Divine Sight
Lenses of Vitial Insight
Ray's Ring of Remembrance
Ring of Spell Storing
Shaed


P.S. - If this was considered for a Eldritch Runestone or UR Special ? effect in the future that would be cool.


Medallion of greyhawk another good one.

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #10

Mike Steele wrote: A permanent extra neck slot seems pretty overpowered, even for a gold ticket run. I hope that sort of thing isn't the norm now.


To qualify you had to slide a 20 on one attempt using a large mug/stein as the slider (or so I've heard).

I think this is the first permanent and exclusive player bonus since Cog Wind which was I believe in 2014.

Honestly I was pretty happy with the seasonal bonuses, but permanent ones gives me something to chase, so I win either way.

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #11

First a big thank you to Jeff for an excellent GT run! I also want to give a shout out to the NPC's, Coaches and DM's for a run that went amazingly well for a first run. Another shout out for the other GT players. it was a blast!

I plan to add a new slot to the Character Gen Apps for this medallion. The items listed in this thread will be listed as available for the GT 2018 slot. If you have another specific item you want added, please list it here. Thank you to Mathew and Ed for the initial list. The fact that I have one had no bearing on my decision to add it to the apps. :whistle:

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Update Rules on Odin's Medallions 1 year 6 months ago #12

Earcuff of Inspiration? The damage bonus is not on the party card as it is only in effect if the bard is singing.

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