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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #13

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Again, as a vendor myself, I sign contracts that stipulate what I can and cannot do in regard to the convention I am attending/selling. I cannot speak for that convention in any capacity except what is legally recognized as spelled out in my contract. Libel suits are nasty and can ruin a company, just look at the history of game company's that have lost. They re gone.

Concerns and fears over this are valid. But in this instance, what Laz has been saying is 100% accurate. TD at Momo Con is but one of many vendors setting up to offer it''s wares. They will be informed of changes with the rest of the sponsors/Vendors if those arise. They will react and adjust as necessary as any business does to protect it's patrons. And if that happens, they will respond, make a statement and proceed from there.

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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #14

That is partly it, Binia, I guess.. I am just asking questions in advance of the next con. Like I told Lazlo I bring my family to these cons and I am a safety first person. The news says this virus is very serious and I just wanted re assurance that if we purchase tickets or even attended the MOMO TD event that True Dungeon has taken measures to ensure public confidence in light of this virus situation. I was told on the other thread that TD will give a refund if MOMO cancels..As I said many events are cancelling and this is one event we are looking forward to. Not just the Con but the actual TD show.. This dangerous virus is all over the news..TD is one event my family looks forward to..I just want to make the right decision and was just looking for information to do so.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #15

Warning! Pedantry and Science Ahead:
If either of those things bother you, stop reading now.

It's not "Chrono" virus, it's Coronavirus. Coronavirus is a class of viruses that includes SARS and MERS. Coronaviruses are named for the crown-like spikes on their surface.
(source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html )
The strain that's in the news of late, COVID-19, "just" makes you sick--sometimes very, very sick which can be fatal to vulnerable individuals. Clearly, it needs to be taken seriously. However, it does not manipulate time, so let's call it by an accurate name.

For accurate information on COVID-19, please refer to the following legitimate sources:
World Health Organization
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Do not refer to your cousin's barber's houskeeper's dogsitter or your favorite FUD -spewing talking-head "news" show. Go to the source. Don't play the Telephone Game with information this important.

Trivia Fact: The name COVID-19 is a distillation of Coronavirus Disease 2019, with 2019 being the year it was first reported.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #16

Depending on your family's situation I wouldn't worry too much about their safety. While COVID-19 is more dangerous than the normal flu, its lethality is mostly limited to the elderly or immunocompromised. The average age of COVID-19 fatalities in the US is currently 80 years old. If someone in your family is up there in age, has a history of respiratory problems (severe asthma, etc) or has a suppressed immune system then they shouldn't go to a convention right now. Otherwise they should be fine.

(Please note I am not a doctor, but I've done a lot of reading of what doctors have said.)

As for the cons potentially being cancelled, that's something that'll happen if it happens. When official notice goes out we'll know. Until then assume the con is on.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #17

Josh McAleer wrote: Depending on your family's situation I wouldn't worry too much about their safety. While COVID-19 is more dangerous than the normal flu, its lethality is mostly limited to the elderly or immunocompromised. The average age of COVID-19 fatalities in the US is currently 80 years old. If someone in your family is up there in age, has a history of respiratory problems (severe asthma, etc) or has a suppressed immune system then they shouldn't go to a convention right now. Otherwise they should be fine.

(Please note I am not a doctor, but I've done a lot of reading of what doctors have said.)

As for the cons potentially being cancelled, that's something that'll happen if it happens. When official notice goes out we'll know. Until then assume the con is on.

Just to be clear just because you (not John specificially but general you) are not 70+ it is possible you will come into contact with someone that is vulnerable. It would suck to have any event I plan to go to get cancelled but it would suck more to pick up the virus and unknowingly transfer to my grandmother. So like others have said follow CDC’s recommendations not just for your health but for 30+ million other Americans of age 70+.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #18

My 2 cents....

Point 1: While it is possible that Jeff could decide to cancel TD at a convention, I would consider it highly unlikely. Is it possible that any given convention could decide to cancel? Well, that is more complicated. I doubt the convention holders could easily cancel a this point. Very few of these organizations operate with any meaningful financials. With sizeable cost already sunk into their operation, cancelling would likely mean folding. Honestly it really just boils down to their financial situation vs. their level of concern. (warranted or not)

Point 2: Although I am the business manager (and apparently the de facto PR department), I work for a medical practice and the current situation is discussed daily. To the point the practice has crafted a standard reply distributed memos to all our business partners. (We have numerous contracts with business and state run facilities). The general consensus in our group and of nearly all medical professionals is that the danger is real but very much blown out of proportions. It is a bad case of the flu. If you possess specific or general vulnerabilities then you should probably not attend public events such as conventions. If you are normal (medically speaking) with a healthy immune system then attending has no increased risk associated with COVID-19.

Point 3: I know many here are long time convention attendees, myself included. And the jokes and stories of Con Crud are seemingly endless. It is rare to return from Gencon in prefect health. And with Gencon in the summer it is not typically the worst. Several conventions are held during prime flu seasons. Winter Fantasy (back in the day) always seemed to be my own personal worst. Pretty sure some necromancers were targeting that place. Now my wife (Who is a highly qualified medical professional) years ago developed a specific plan for us during con season (We have attended with our children for years) and the car ride is often filled with mom's friendly refresher courses on best practices. A few years back, our son dubbed her "The Alchemist" With no earthly idea why he will not acknowledge that I am clearly the Bard of the our party.

So far we have changed no plans nor see any specific reason to do so. Obviously we stay well informed through work and would change plans if we surmised any plausible risk. But for now, Relax, get your tokens ready and prepare for Jeff and his monsters to murder us all.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #19

Look, I appreciate the replies and opinions but I hope you all are clearly seeing the severe gravity of the situation at hand. They just shutdown Italy. Not just a region or town..The entire country of Italy is on lockdown. As recent as three weeks ago it was fine. I have friends that were going there but they have since cancelled in time and luckily so.. or they may have been trapped there. This is not a normal case of cold or con crud. Someone made the comment earlier about just drinking booze and powering thru it..This is not your average con crud. This year the con crud could be catastrophic it could be deadly. Now I am sure Italy had shows and contracts and events and agreements as recent as three weeks ago.. That has all changed very quickly. Please be extra conscious of this situation..The comment of someone taking said virus home to elderly family or friends is very real. It is not just about how lucky you are to be young ..It could turn into a situation where all of those young could become carriers and put the lives of their feeble family in harms way. I do not mean to be so alarming about this..but they just shut down Italy. www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/09/813791575/italy-expands-quarantine-measures-nationwide-to-stem-spread-of-coronavirus
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #20

Davoruk wrote: My 2 cents....

Point 1: While it is possible that Jeff could decide to cancel TD at a convention, I would consider it highly unlikely. Is it possible that any given convention could decide to cancel? Well, that is more complicated. I doubt the convention holders could easily cancel a this point. Very few of these organizations operate with any meaningful financials. With sizeable cost already sunk into their operation, cancelling would likely mean folding. Honestly it really just boils down to their financial situation vs. their level of concern. (warranted or not)

Point 2: Although I am the business manager (and apparently the de facto PR department), I work for a medical practice and the current situation is discussed daily. To the point the practice has crafted a standard reply distributed memos to all our business partners. (We have numerous contracts with business and state run facilities). The general consensus in our group and of nearly all medical professionals is that the danger is real but very much blown out of proportions. It is a bad case of the flu. If you possess specific or general vulnerabilities then you should probably not attend public events such as conventions. If you are normal (medically speaking) with a healthy immune system then attending has no increased risk associated with COVID-19.

Point 3: I know many here are long time convention attendees, myself included. And the jokes and stories of Con Crud are seemingly endless. It is rare to return from Gencon in prefect health. And with Gencon in the summer it is not typically the worst. Several conventions are held during prime flu seasons. Winter Fantasy (back in the day) always seemed to be my own personal worst. Pretty sure some necromancers were targeting that place. Now my wife (Who is a highly qualified medical professional) years ago developed a specific plan for us during con season (We have attended with our children for years) and the car ride is often filled with mom's friendly refresher courses on best practices. A few years back, our son dubbed her "The Alchemist" With no earthly idea why he will not acknowledge that I am clearly the Bard of the our party.

So far we have changed no plans nor see any specific reason to do so. Obviously we stay well informed through work and would change plans if we surmised any plausible risk. But for now, Relax, get your tokens ready and prepare for Jeff and his monsters to murder us all.


Quick comment : It's not the flu. That's incorrect. And as of now they don't know if it's seasonal or not.

As others have said:. Check the CDC website.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #21

i would hate to see how bad it would be if AIDs was discovered today and not 30+ years ago.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #22

Let's all take a breath and relax before we respond to any more posts. Cool?
Thank you.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #23

I’m going to bite my tongue on my other opinions of the matter, but we should follow Druegar’s advice and rely on source information for the latest updates. The CDC is putting out the latest information on risk assessments and travel advisories. Nobody on this forum is going to have better information than them. I suggest starting with the Situation Summary and continue following up on the rest of their site.
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Will Corona Virus stop the new True Dungeon show? 2 months 2 weeks ago #24

Lazlo please tell me what medical degree you hold?

I say again.. The entire country of Italy is on lock down.
As recent as three weeks ago it was fine.

Following the ego of people like Lazlo is not wise.

Please just consider that as of mere weeks ago Italy, China, Iran, South Korea
were fine. Now all are on lock down.

Should we be prepping for a True Dungeon show right now? Maybe we should we use our money
to prepare for something we have never experienced.

I am not here to act out of ego and name call like Lazlo is doing. I am just asking questions and trying to make the best informed decision for my family in this situation. I love True Dungeon events as does my family. I just want everyone to be safe so we have TD for years to come.
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