TOPIC: 2020 Transmute Recipe "Discussion"

Allow the use of Completion Tokens in more recipes (besides the RoH types). They are after all Trophies of a completed quest.

Harlax wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Picc wrote: Honestly I think we may just need to rebalance what goes into what trade good from the ground up at some point. It seems like the growth in slots combined with planks as a catch all has just created an ongoing flood.

Agreed.
Bead to Philosophers Stone seems like a good start.

More Philosophers Stones? Please no.

Bead to Dwarven steel?

Harlax wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Picc wrote: Honestly I think we may just need to rebalance what goes into what trade good from the ground up at some point. It seems like the growth in slots combined with planks as a catch all has just created an ongoing flood.

Agreed.
Bead to Philosophers Stone seems like a good start.

More Philosophers Stones? Please no.

I'm not lobbying for it necessarily, but I've always found it odd that Ioun stones make planks instead of stones.

Endgame wrote:

Harlax wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Picc wrote: Honestly I think we may just need to rebalance what goes into what trade good from the ground up at some point. It seems like the growth in slots combined with planks as a catch all has just created an ongoing flood.

Agreed.
Bead to Philosophers Stone seems like a good start.

More Philosophers Stones? Please no.

Bead to Dwarven steel?

That would be useful.

If treasure pulls are uniformly distributed between UC and R for 2019 the proportion of Trade Goods is roughly

Alchemists Ink 3.6
Alchemists Parchment 3.6
Aragonite 1
Darkwood Plank 9
Elven Bismuth 1.2
Enchanters Munition 1.2
Mystic Silk 7.8
Oil of Enchantment 1.2
Philsophers Stone 6.6

Is it not weird that Bracers, Gauntlets and now Greaves are considered clothing for Mystic Silk?

I've always thought of those items as Armor, at least in most instances... the difference between Gloves and Gauntlets would be similar to that of Hats and Helms.

Of course... there are those types of Bracers and Greaves that are meant to be worn under armor to prevent armor burn which I would consider as clothing items. Along that line of thought, how long will it be before we get Knee and Elbow Pads? and Pauldrons, Shoulder Pads and Armors?

Also, not meaning to completely derail the conversation, but If the Teeth of Cavadar become a face item, I would want separate Mouth and Eye slots at that time... to still be able to wear Lenses with the "Grill" of Cavadar... My hope is that it will be a slotless item like the Rod, but I'm not hopeful that we'll be able to reuse a "slot" to make the final Eldritch set. Full-Face masks would take both face slots.

Some Face, Bracer and Greaves items could be considered Armor, Gear, or Clothing depending on their design... Sub-categorizing items like this is super complex and may be too much when we want to keep things simple. Giving us the choice of what to spend them on may be one answer, though.

No matter what slots are added or how items get re-classified... weapons will always lose out unless we get breath weapon items, eye beams, shoulder turrets, hidden blades, etc... but ultimately, the answer would be to shift the ratios in which tokens are created each year. Of course... most recipes seem to be balanced to pull more of the items we currently get more of anyway, so is it such a big deal anyway?

The completed teeth should be slotless, like the rod.

JACKOFTRADZE wrote: Allow the use of Completion Tokens in more recipes (besides the RoH types). They are after all Trophies of a completed quest.

I'm hoping completion tokens aren't used for recipes, I like keeping them.

edwin wrote: Darkwood Plank are like vermin. They seem to multiply. Use 15 and end up with 30 more.

I know right I stopped buying 1k packs because I didn't want to deal with the transmutes.

James J Krot wrote:

edwin wrote: Darkwood Plank are like vermin. They seem to multiply. Use 15 and end up with 30 more.

I know right I stopped buying 1k packs because I didn't want to deal with the transmutes.

I have been throwing my common and uncommon tokens that transmute to DP and MS in the Trash. I will try and transmute the rares but mailing a huge box to TD is as impractical as trying to carry them on a plane to GenCon.

Bob Chasan wrote:

James J Krot wrote:

edwin wrote: Darkwood Plank are like vermin. They seem to multiply. Use 15 and end up with 30 more.

I know right I stopped buying 1k packs because I didn't want to deal with the transmutes.

I have been throwing my common and uncommon tokens that transmute to DP and MS in the Trash. I will try and transmute the rares but mailing a huge box to TD is as impractical as trying to carry them all to GenCon.

I can transmute then at GHC thank god, I have a box full of transmutes to do but it really is just a pain in the ass sometimes. I really do like the condensed 1k packs now and might start doing that again depending on my needs.

Bob Chasan wrote:

James J Krot wrote:

edwin wrote: Darkwood Plank are like vermin. They seem to multiply. Use 15 and end up with 30 more.

I know right I stopped buying 1k packs because I didn't want to deal with the transmutes.

I have been throwing my common and uncommon tokens that transmute to DP and MS in the Trash. I will try and transmute the rares but mailing a huge box to TD is as impractical as trying to carry them on a plane to GenCon.

My sister lives in Scottsdale. You can give them to her.