TOPIC: Combat sliding

What determines if a weapon Crits or not when sliding ?

jon wrote: What determines if a weapon Crits or not when sliding ?

A Critical is when the slider covers part of the 20 on the combat after all sliding as been completed for a round. The DM will then check to see if the "monster" can be critical-ed and if so then it is a Crit.

Note some tokens and effects expand this to lower numbers as well (e.g. 19-20).

Ed

1. The monster must be crit-able. Generally this means it has 'vital anatomy' - e.g it's not a plant, a construct, a golem, a swarm, an ooze. Practically this is set as part of the room design in the module.

(There are tokens that negate critical immunities).

2. A slid 20 always crits, regardless of whether a hit would have been scored on a 20 or not.

3. Some weapons or effects grant expanded critical ranges on numbers lower than 20. For expanded crit ranges if the lower number is a hit, then it will be scored as a crit. For example, Thor's +5 Hammer has a 18-20 crit range, if you slide an 18 and that 18 is a miss, then it misses. If that 18 is a hit, then it's a crit.

Matthew Hayward wrote: 2. A slid 20 always crits, regardless of whether a hit would have been scored on a 20 or not.

That is not correct. A 20 always hits, it doesn't always crit.

Druegar wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: 2. A slid 20 always crits, regardless of whether a hit would have been scored on a 20 or not.

That is not correct. A 20 always hits, it doesn't always crit.

From the DMs guide, page 9:

"Critical Hits

If a player slides a natural 20 (not when a monster rolls a natural 20), the damage inflicted is doubled. ..."

Can you explain when a 20 hits and doesn't critical, other than the exemption that the monster must not be immune to crits as I had stated earlier in the post you quoted from?

Matthew Hayward wrote: Can you explain when a 20 hits and doesn't critical, other than the exemption that the monster must not be immune to crits as I had stated earlier in the post

That is exactly the exception I had in mind. I realize you mentioned the exception in a different paragraph, but the statement "a 20 always crits" is not true because it is not always the case. If you think I'm being overly pedantic, you should read some of the messages I receive...

The quote from the DMG will be updated. Thank you for pointing that out!