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TOPIC: True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR?

True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #13

Raven wrote:

Cain Eyebright wrote: However, a question regarding AoW...could a rogue use it to get two sneak attacks in one round?


I bet I can answer that one:

No. If the Rogue does a Sneak Attack in Round One, they have used the ability to sneak attack for the room, and could not do another one in Round Two. While they could make a normal attack after their Sneak Attack, they couldn't do 2 S.A.s

With the possible exception of: Boots of Drowkind ... since those give you the ability to Sneak Attack a second target, you could conceivably do 2 Sneak Attacks (against different targets) in the same round, if you had them equipped with the AoW (and Hood of Elvenkind, since you'd still need to spend a round of sneaking prep, otherwise.)


Ahh, good point...my mind was obviously not focused enough when I asked that.

Many thanks, Raven!

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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #14

Raven wrote:

Cain Eyebright wrote: However, a question regarding AoW...could a rogue use it to get two sneak attacks in one round?


I bet I can answer that one


I doubt there is anybody more qualified :)
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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #15

Raven wrote:

Cain Eyebright wrote: However, a question regarding AoW...could a rogue use it to get two sneak attacks in one round?


I bet I can answer that one:

No. If the Rogue does a Sneak Attack in Round One, they have used the ability to sneak attack for the room, and could not do another one in Round Two. While they could make a normal attack after their Sneak Attack, they couldn't do 2 S.A.s

With the possible exception of: Boots of Drowkind ... since those give you the ability to Sneak Attack a second target, you could conceivably do 2 Sneak Attacks (against different targets) in the same round, if you had them equipped with the AoW (and Hood of Elvenkind, since you'd still need to spend a round of sneaking prep, otherwise.)


Raven is correct. The AoW does not get around other normal limitations, but if you can Sneak Attack twice (with Boots of Drowkind), you could Sneak Attack two different targets in the same round.

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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #16

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Raven wrote:

Cain Eyebright wrote: However, a question regarding AoW...could a rogue use it to get two sneak attacks in one round?


I bet I can answer that one:

No. If the Rogue does a Sneak Attack in Round One, they have used the ability to sneak attack for the room, and could not do another one in Round Two. While they could make a normal attack after their Sneak Attack, they couldn't do 2 S.A.s

With the possible exception of: Boots of Drowkind ... since those give you the ability to Sneak Attack a second target, you could conceivably do 2 Sneak Attacks (against different targets) in the same round, if you had them equipped with the AoW (and Hood of Elvenkind, since you'd still need to spend a round of sneaking prep, otherwise.)


Raven is correct. The AoW does not get around other normal limitations, but if you can Sneak Attack twice (with Boots of Drowkind), you could Sneak Attack two different targets in the same round.


Might be worth it, grind frequently has 2 boards. Question being could you travel freely enough between them to pull it off or would you say have to spend a round crossing a river of lava or some such.
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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #17

Picc wrote: Might be worth it, grind frequently has 2 boards. Question being could you travel freely enough between them to pull it off or would you say have to spend a round crossing a river of lava or some such.


Grind always has 2 or 3 combat boards, but like you said there may be a travel time between them (or, in other cases, not). So it will depend on the situation but it certainly could work.
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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #18

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Picc wrote: Might be worth it, grind frequently has 2 boards. Question being could you travel freely enough between them to pull it off or would you say have to spend a round crossing a river of lava or some such.


Grind always has 2 or 3 combat boards, but like you said there may be a travel time between them (or, in other cases, not). So it will depend on the situation but it certainly could work.


It would be really nice if it could be made to work - if only for the Rogue.

Those boots are _so_ situational, and there are so much better things to do with the boot slot, that if someone has gone to the bother of equipping them and an AOW it would be awesome if they actually got to use them.

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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #19

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Kirk Bauer wrote:

Picc wrote: Might be worth it, grind frequently has 2 boards. Question being could you travel freely enough between them to pull it off or would you say have to spend a round crossing a river of lava or some such.


Grind always has 2 or 3 combat boards, but like you said there may be a travel time between them (or, in other cases, not). So it will depend on the situation but it certainly could work.


It would be really nice if it could be made to work - if only for the Rogue.

Those boots are _so_ situational, and there are so much better things to do with the boot slot, that if someone has gone to the bother of equipping them and an AOW it would be awesome if they actually got to use them.


Especially considering how little love the rogue class gets in terms of rogue boxes in grind.
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True Grind - GenCon 2016 - AoW/EldritchRune/UR? 3 years 5 months ago #20

We have released the following documents:


True Grind 2016 FAQ:

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True Grind 2016 Environmental

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True Grind 2016 Party Card

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Main changes to the FAQ:

Q2: Specified special rule for a sub-class of saving throw.

Q4: Slight rewording regarding skill checks.

Q5: New effects of Amulet of Wonder, Eldritch Runestone, and UR Special

Tip 1: Explained why the morning and afternoon Grind sessions are 1 hour apart while the evening Grind sessions are 1.5 hours apart. In all cases, the event is 90 minutes long and please arrive at the official start time of the event.

Tip 5: Specified that the bonus for having your character stats and/or submitting an equipment list is +1 Max HP for each.

Updated Survival Stats


No significant changes to the Environmental Rules document. Did add details on the special rule for a sub-class of saving throw (same info as in the FAQ).


No changes to the Party Card. The 2016 Party Card will be identical to the 2015 Party Card (because we have some leftover carbon copies to use).


Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks and good luck!

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