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TOPIC: Standardization of trade token transmutes & more

Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #25

Honestly, I think that just adding a small symbol or letters indicating the transmute result would be the most helpful. 25 tokens vs. 150 points is just semantics, but being able to sort transmute materials without having to constantly refer to the chart in the token guide would be a huge help for sorting.
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #26

Ro-gan wrote:

Kirk Bauer wrote: I definitely like the idea of marking the trade token on each token. On the other hand I'm pretty happy with the trade good unit system already in use but perhaps that is just me :)


Nope. It's not just you. I think the trade good unit system is fine, too.

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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #27

Adam Pillari wrote: ...but being able to sort transmute materials without having to constantly refer to the chart in the token guide would be a huge help for sorting.


The first year, I would have agreed 100%. Now, it's less. After a few years, most of it comes pretty automatic. Most are easy to remember, for me anyway. There are a few quirks, though (crown = stone?)

But I very, very rarely look at the chart in the Token Guide. I much prefer the table here: www.truedungeon.com/tep


Because the charts change from year to year, and who can memorize them? That table never changes. Well, except for the new graphics this year.
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #28

It's exactly because of those weird ones that it would be helpful. There were more than a few this year...cloaks and robes are another odd one.

I feel that this would also make it easier for those handling the token exchange. Quick look and they can tell if the ziplock of tokens has the correct materials, and it would reduce the number of returns they'd have to send out for people who mix up the mats.
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #29

Crown of Holly almost killed me this year.

+1 to adding small symbol to Token to make it easier to identify what it transmutes into.
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #30

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What gets me is usually things that are AC I think of as armor but helmets and some monk sashs give ac but our mystic silk. Everything else is pretty much makes sense.

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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #31

James J Krot wrote: What gets me is usually things that are AC I think of as armor but helmets and some monk sashs give ac but our mystic silk. Everything else is pretty much makes sense.


Actually, helms and helmets ARE armor. Caps and Hats are Silk. Crowns and Circlets are Stones.
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Brad Mortensen wrote:

James J Krot wrote: What gets me is usually things that are AC I think of as armor but helmets and some monk sashs give ac but our mystic silk. Everything else is pretty much makes sense.


Actually, helms and helmets ARE armor. Caps and Hats are Silk. Crowns and Circlets are Stones.


Brad, I had the same idea regarding crowns from 2016, then looked at the token guide after i sent my transmute order to find that Crown of Iron Will is part of the Aragonite trade goods....

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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #33

Kakitahan wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

James J Krot wrote: What gets me is usually things that are AC I think of as armor but helmets and some monk sashs give ac but our mystic silk. Everything else is pretty much makes sense.


Actually, helms and helmets ARE armor. Caps and Hats are Silk. Crowns and Circlets are Stones.


Brad, I had the same idea regarding crowns from 2016, then looked at the token guide after i sent my transmute order to find that Crown of Iron Will is part of the Aragonite trade goods....


No, it's not:

tokendb.com/token/crown-of-iron-will/

Be nice if it were though - as Aragonite trade goods are worth maybe 50% more than the other trade goods rares transmute to.

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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #34

...and that link I posted a couple pages back specifically says Crowns (and circlets) are Stones.

The graphics are usually a clue, and help me remember which is which. Crowns and circlets, which usually show a few gems, are Stones. Caps and hats, looking all floppy like they're cloth or soft leather, are Silks. Helms and helmets, that give AC, are armor.
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #35

I believe the minor confusion in the last few posts reinforces the point I was trying to make....
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Standardization of trade token transmutes & more 3 years 2 months ago #36

Adam Pillari wrote: I believe the minor confusion in the last few posts reinforces the point I was trying to make....


Sadly, no system is foolproof. Typos creep in no matter how many people proofread things. Even tokens aren't immune, which is why one of our transmutes this year now has two recipes.

The recipes in my favorite link are very clear, and I've never known them to fail. (But, if it were me, I'd include a few more examples under Planks, like charms, runestones, and ioun stones, which I would have guessed turned into Philo Stones - the last two even have "stone" in their names!)

Individual entries in the guides can be, and sometimes are wrong, and I've seen them corrected on multiple occasions. (Sounds like Kakitahan found another one.) Not sure why people bother to use those pages and pages of charts.

I don't object to a small symbol or something on tokens to show what they morph into. I just don't think them necessary. It's one more thing to clutter the token and one more thing to confuse newbies.
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