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TOPIC: Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020

Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 22 hours ago #1

I am thinking of doing another auction for 2020 but have this one be a hybrid of what I did last year. Last year, I let people trade in tokens I am looking for in exchange for a certain number of PYP's, Cavadar teeth, etc.. I think I probably over-complicated it a bit by having it just be by trade then trying to normalize the value of what is being traded versus PYP values.

This time, I am thinking of just doing a straightforward ebay style auction letting the cash value of items vary based on bids. At the same time, I'm still looking to fill in holes in my collection as well as get some items for friends.

How would people feel about an auction format where I allowed a combination of cash and trade-ins to equal the value of what they bid? The only catch I see is that items I am seeking in trade would get spoken for in trade credit. That means someone might commit to $1000 in trade credit but PYP prices might go higher than they thought and they might not get as much out of it as they thought.

Last year, it worked well but the list I was seeking was much larger then than it is today but this year's items are substantially higher value in price.

Any ideas on how to make this work better (or if it is a bad idea altogether?

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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 22 hours ago #2

This is the list I was thinking of in terms of items being sought in trade for credit in the auction:
(the values are based on current listing for these items except where question marks are present)
Ioun Stone Silver Nugget (looking for 3) est value 200

Charm of Awakened Synergy (looking for 2) est value 325

Charm of Avarice (looking for 4) est value 1200

Orb Hatchling est value 4000?

Orb 2nd year est value 1400

Orb 3rd year est value 800

Orb 4th year est value 800

Wand of Cure Light Wounds (looking for several) est value $25? $50?

Figurine: Cat est value 250?

Figurine: Tortoise est value 140

Gloves of the Flying Fist est value 350?

"+5" Viper Strike Fang est value 1350

Rod of Seven Parts est value 4500

Cloak of Displacement est value 400?

Hourglass of Imprisonment est value 250?

Ring of Three Wishes est value 500?

Dragonscale Shield est value 150?

Byr's Annointed Redoubt Plate est value 1000

Giln's Redoubt Shield est value 1000

Khing's Ring of Supreme Evasion est value 500

Pern's Redoubt Helm est value 1000

Sill's Annointed Redoubt Mail est value 1000

TaMor's +4 Mithril Bracers est value 400

Drue's +5 Baton of Focus est value 1200

I appreciate any feedback. Thank you!

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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 22 hours ago #3

My initial thought is that the items being so high in value might make it harder, not easier to determine bids.

Maybe the trades->cash value could be settled up at time of payment?

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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 22 hours ago #4

The only problem there is that people might bid thinking item X is available for trade but someone else used that item in value first. An example would be Pern's helm. I'm only looking for one - so the second person looking to pay their order in trade might not be able to afford the cash value since they planned to use the item for payment.

That's the bit I am having trouble working around.

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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 21 hours ago #5

Would be interested to see how something like this shakes out but it seems like this could get messy. If you do run an auction I'd most likely bid on some things.
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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 20 hours ago #6

Ring of Three Wishes est value 500?...off my 20X at least. I would pay 5K for one
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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 2 weeks 18 hours ago #7

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: Ring of Three Wishes est value 500?...off my 20X at least. I would pay 5K for one


Think he just missed a zero :)
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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 1 week 6 days ago #8

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: Ring of Three Wishes est value 500?...off my 20X at least. I would pay 5K for one


Really? I had no idea it was that rare.

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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 1 week 6 days ago #9

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Fred K wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: Ring of Three Wishes est value 500?...off my 20X at least. I would pay 5K for one


Really? I had no idea it was that rare.

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The last one that was sold went for $10,000. Prior to that, the previous one to change hands was probably over ten years before that. These basically never change hands.
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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 1 week 6 days ago #10

Hourglass may be off also.

Most seems to be cash prices where trade prices would be different.

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edwin wrote: Hourglass may be off also.

Most seems to be cash prices where trade prices would be different.


I would agree about the Hourglass too. It was literally the last Ultra Rare that I acquired to complete my collection of having every...single...UR...token, and I only got it because Rob F. was awesome and gave it to me. :)
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Combination Trade/Bid Auction for 2020 1 week 5 days ago #12

After getting a good deal of input, I'm shelving this idea for an auction like this - ultimately, it's over-complicating elements that don't need the mess.

I'm doing a couple orders but I'm waiting until the 2020 order details are finalized. Most likely, I'll run an auction on the 25th or so.

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