TOPIC: +5 Final Token Proof Sheets

Mike: I know you have done a lot of research on the legendary lute. If I already have Briano's Blessed Bodhrán and Widseth's Mystical Lute, will the only upgrade to the legendary lute will be the +2 to hit? (Other than the potential reroll).


I would have to get 2 more UR (Lute of Fury + 1 older one) upgrade the Lute of Fury, and then to the legendary Lute.
It would be: 14 Alch. Ink,5 Alch Parch, 3 Argonite, 30 planks, 2 Dwar. steel, 4 Elven Bismuth, 3 fleece, 3 Min. Hide, 23 M. Silk, 3 Oil of ench., 23 Phil Stones, 30,000 GP and 1 wish ring. All that for the additional +2 to-hit and potential re-roll.

I love the Bard, but not that much.
Larry

Wayne Rhodes wrote: Thanks for making my PYP choices harder.

The hat and cloak of shadowskin where off my radar with the previous version.

I still like the Ioun stones

I would still like to see the saves put back on the holy avenger or possibly add sacred damage to it. I’m cool if anything added to it is only for paladin to represent that for any other class it’s just a +2 sword.

The Holy Avenger needs somewhere to move when it becomes +5, don't force the power creep, I am sure they will find their way home.

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I think the crossbow needs a +2 on it.

I've tried bringing that up over several revisions. At this point, I have to assume it is intentional to leave it off even though the damage wheel seems high.

I guess this will be a good ranged option for those who have a lot of Dex already.

UR Ring of the Yeti is missing year symbols.

Thank you Jeff! I like that CoS is now +2, Keeping mine, question: Is there still going to be a trade in on the old ones or is it going to be an errata and we keep our old one?

Surprising change on Hat makes a really good option if you're not running an UR armor set already,

Love the dex robe at rare and rare dex bracelets,

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I think the crossbow needs a +2 on it.

I've tried bringing that up over several revisions. At this point, I have to assume it is intentional to leave it off even though the damage wheel seems high.

I guess this will be a good ranged option for those who have a lot of Dex already.

As an UR non-magical weapon one will need to use magical ammo to be effect on Nightmare.

edwin wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I think the crossbow needs a +2 on it.

I've tried bringing that up over several revisions. At this point, I have to assume it is intentional to leave it off even though the damage wheel seems high.

I guess this will be a good ranged option for those who have a lot of Dex already.

As an UR non-magical weapon one will need to use magical ammo to be effect on Nightmare.

I didn't even think of that!

Good thing we have a couple in this set!

Larry Anthony wrote: Mike: I know you have done a lot of research on the legendary lute. If I already have Briano's Blessed Bodhrán and Widseth's Mystical Lute, will the only upgrade to the legendary lute will be the +2 to hit? (Other than the potential reroll).


I would have to get 2 more UR (Lute of Fury + 1 older one) upgrade the Lute of Fury, and then to the legendary Lute.
It would be: 14 Alch. Ink,5 Alch Parch, 3 Argonite, 30 planks, 2 Dwar. steel, 4 Elven Bismuth, 3 fleece, 3 Min. Hide, 23 M. Silk, 3 Oil of ench., 23 Phil Stones, 30,000 GP and 1 wish ring. All that for the additional +2 to-hit and potential re-roll.

I love the Bard, but not that much.
Larry

Hi Larry,

I think that's correct. An additional +2 to hit is pretty awesome for the whole group, as is the reroll, but like you I think our Bard will just be sticking with his individual UR instruments instead of going to the Relic or Legendary versions.

Thanks!
Mike

Larry Anthony wrote: Mike: I know you have done a lot of research on the legendary lute. If I already have Briano's Blessed Bodhrán and Widseth's Mystical Lute, will the only upgrade to the legendary lute will be the +2 to hit? (Other than the potential reroll).


I would have to get 2 more UR (Lute of Fury + 1 older one) upgrade the Lute of Fury, and then to the legendary Lute.
It would be: 14 Alch. Ink,5 Alch Parch, 3 Argonite, 30 planks, 2 Dwar. steel, 4 Elven Bismuth, 3 fleece, 3 Min. Hide, 23 M. Silk, 3 Oil of ench., 23 Phil Stones, 30,000 GP and 1 wish ring. All that for the additional +2 to-hit and potential re-roll.

I love the Bard, but not that much.
Larry

Other upgrades (pending exact details of exatra handedness):

1. You could use Lenses of Sage Speed and do Bardsong.
2. You could drink a potion and apply an oil with Pouch of Tulz.
3. You could use a wand and do any other FA ability.
4. You could do a lore check and any other FA ability.

Basically the difference is with Widseth's and Briano's your bonus standard action had to be attacking (Widseth's) or spellcasting from your card (Braino's), or reading a scroll (Amorgen's).

With the relic/legendary you can do any sort of standard and free action evidently.

Thanks for bumping the Shadowskin back up. The extra Save point helps it retain it's slot worthiness. Can't wait to place my order!

Sorry I missed the change, but Charm of Treasure Boosting says ‘may only equip 1 treasure enhancing token’. Just to make sure I understand. I could equip CoA, 3 Ioun Stone Nuggets and still gain the +1 from this token by boosting one of the ioun stones?

For what it’s worth, that will be much easier to code. Thank you!

Cranston wrote: Sorry I missed the change, but Charm of Treasure Boosting says ‘may only equip 1 treasure enhancing token’. Just to make sure I understand. I could equip CoA, 3 Ioun Stone Nuggets and still gain the +1 from this token by boosting one of the ioun stones?

For what it’s worth, that will be much easier to code. Thank you!

Since it says you can only equip one TE token you would need to pick one from your list. If you picked CoA you can but you don't get the +1. If you pick one of the nuggets (since they are UR) you get +1. If you equip more then one TE you can't use this token.

Remember the Charm of Treasure Boosting is not a Treasure Enhancing token. If you only equipped it you would only get the normal 3 treasure tokens at the end of the run. It is a TEB (Treasure Enhancing Boosting) token.

Ed