TOPIC: Old School D&D Nostalgia Time

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Only reason it feels that way is because the Kilt's and LoDS were OP to begin with. So I get it. But if the original LoDS were what they are today, and the UR Kilts were all +3 stat bumps (which they should have been) then Cleric's would be stoked about the new Kilt and the new Tome. Jeff did say he's got plans for the Wisdom stat, so I'm sure we'll be debating WIS boosting Tokens very soon!!!

Rob F wrote:

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Only reason it feels that way is because the Kilt's and LoDS were OP to begin with. So I get it. But if the original LoDS were what they are today, and the UR Kilts were all +3 stat bumps (which they should have been) then Cleric's would be stoked about the new Kilt and the new Tome. Jeff did say he's got plans for the Wisdom stat, so I'm sure we'll be debating WIS boosting Tokens very soon!!!

I asked you nicely. Just... stop talking to me

Rob F wrote:

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Only reason it feels that way is because the Kilt's and LoDS were OP to begin with. So I get it. But if the original LoDS were what they are today, and the UR Kilts were all +3 stat bumps (which they should have been) then Cleric's would be stoked about the new Kilt and the new Tome. Jeff did say he's got plans for the Wisdom stat, so I'm sure we'll be debating WIS boosting Tokens very soon!!!

Just stop Rob, we know your position, you know ours, we disagree. I doubt either of us are changing our minds and at this point it's just starting to feel like rubbing it in.

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Im actually pumped about being a cleric. I didn't already have lods so I don't feel the nerf and it's being reprinted so I can get in on it at a reasonable cost.

Picc wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Only reason it feels that way is because the Kilt's and LoDS were OP to begin with. So I get it. But if the original LoDS were what they are today, and the UR Kilts were all +3 stat bumps (which they should have been) then Cleric's would be stoked about the new Kilt and the new Tome. Jeff did say he's got plans for the Wisdom stat, so I'm sure we'll be debating WIS boosting Tokens very soon!!!

Just stop Rob, we know your position, you know ours, we disagree. I doubt either of us are changing our minds and at this point it's just starting to feel like rubbing it in.

Sorry brother. But it goes both ways. I have a right to defend a Token just as much as you and others have a right to continue to complain about it. Nothing personal at all though and not trying to rub anything in. I'll respectfully bow out now though.

Rob F wrote:

Flik wrote:

Picc wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: To be blunt, so to speak, this feels like a bad year to be a Cleric, so I’m hoping something can be done.

Ahman to that, speaking as a part time cleric of mask at least the rogue side of the business did ok but over half the URs I'm going to be in the market for are going to be dedicated to getting my cleric build back to zero so to speak.

Agreed it does feel like a bad year to be a cleric...

Only reason it feels that way is because the Kilt's and LoDS were OP to begin with. So I get it. But if the original LoDS were what they are today, and the UR Kilts were all +3 stat bumps (which they should have been) then Cleric's would be stoked about the new Kilt and the new Tome. Jeff did say he's got plans for the Wisdom stat, so I'm sure we'll be debating WIS boosting Tokens very soon!!!

Maybe if the Dex UR Kilt hadn't been so overpowered, people would have listened more last year to the Clerics that complained about the Hammer being screwed up.

I hate to go 15° off-normal here...

But to actually even pick Thor’s up... there should be a Meta-stat - called - “Worthiness” that has to meet a minimum, and is a combination of a few other stats.

There should be like 3 different combinations to get you there....

Just a random floatie that’s been bobbing around my brain for a while now....

Grekel! wrote: I hate to go 15° off-normal here...

But to actually even pick Thor’s up... there should be a Meta-stat - called - “Worthiness” that has to meet a minimum, and is a combination of a few other stats.

There should be like 3 different combinations to get you there....

Just a random floatie that’s been bobbing around my brain for a while now....

“Worthiness” is a Marvel construct. Nothing in the Norse mythology says anything about that.

So some think the problem is all mine. The Hammer was never meant for Clerics, and the Kilt nerfing should have happened sooner. It’s a good thing, actually, because wrongs have been righted and us uppity Clerics are out back in our place.

And let’s snap their glasses in half while we’re at it.

Any one of the things that happened this cycle is fine. But put them all together... I swear to you all, I’m trying to see the silver lining. So far, bupkis. YMMV

The fact remains, the Kilt doesn’t treat all characters equally. If it read “-1 FORT AND CHOOSE: +6 CON, or +4 DEX +2 CON, or + 4 STR +2 CON” then maybe people would see it. Or maybe not. Because that’s what it DOES say, just in code. But that’s a little off topic, too.

This is a free country. Anyone is allowed to say whatever they want. There are just some people I would prefer stop addressing me.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Grekel! wrote: I hate to go 15° off-normal here...

But to actually even pick Thor’s up... there should be a Meta-stat - called - “Worthiness” that has to meet a minimum, and is a combination of a few other stats.

There should be like 3 different combinations to get you there....

Just a random floatie that’s been bobbing around my brain for a while now....

“Worthiness” is a Marvel construct. Nothing in the Norse mythology says anything about that.

So some think the problem is all mine. The Hammer was never meant for Clerics, and the Kilt nerfing should have happened sooner. It’s a good thing, actually, because wrongs have been righted and us uppity Clerics are out back in our place.

And let’s snap their glasses in half while we’re at it.

Any one of the things that happened this cycle is fine. But put them all together... I swear to you all, I’m trying to see the silver lining. So far, bupkis. YMMV

The fact remains, the Kilt doesn’t treat all characters equally. If it read “-1 FORT AND CHOOSE: +6 CON, or +4 DEX +2 CON, or + 4 STR +2 CON” then maybe people would see it. Or maybe not. Because that’s what it DOES say, just in code. But that’s a little off topic, too.

This is a free country. Anyone is allowed to say whatever they want. There are just some people I would prefer stop addressing me.

Understood.

I bid thee condolences and sympathy, for whatever consolation that may provide, and know that I have utmost respect for your involvement and engagement in the discussions!

Grekel! wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Grekel! wrote: I hate to go 15° off-normal here...

But to actually even pick Thor’s up... there should be a Meta-stat - called - “Worthiness” that has to meet a minimum, and is a combination of a few other stats.

There should be like 3 different combinations to get you there....

Just a random floatie that’s been bobbing around my brain for a while now....

“Worthiness” is a Marvel construct. Nothing in the Norse mythology says anything about that.

So some think the problem is all mine. The Hammer was never meant for Clerics, and the Kilt nerfing should have happened sooner. It’s a good thing, actually, because wrongs have been righted and us uppity Clerics are out back in our place.

And let’s snap their glasses in half while we’re at it.

Any one of the things that happened this cycle is fine. But put them all together... I swear to you all, I’m trying to see the silver lining. So far, bupkis. YMMV

The fact remains, the Kilt doesn’t treat all characters equally. If it read “-1 FORT AND CHOOSE: +6 CON, or +4 DEX +2 CON, or + 4 STR +2 CON” then maybe people would see it. Or maybe not. Because that’s what it DOES say, just in code. But that’s a little off topic, too.

This is a free country. Anyone is allowed to say whatever they want. There are just some people I would prefer stop addressing me.

Understood.

I bid thee condolences and sympathy, for whatever consolation that may provide, and know that I have utmost respect for your involvement and engagement in the discussions!

You aren’t one of them

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Grekel! wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

Grekel! wrote: I hate to go 15° off-normal here...

But to actually even pick Thor’s up... there should be a Meta-stat - called - “Worthiness” that has to meet a minimum, and is a combination of a few other stats.

There should be like 3 different combinations to get you there....

Just a random floatie that’s been bobbing around my brain for a while now....

“Worthiness” is a Marvel construct. Nothing in the Norse mythology says anything about that.

So some think the problem is all mine. The Hammer was never meant for Clerics, and the Kilt nerfing should have happened sooner. It’s a good thing, actually, because wrongs have been righted and us uppity Clerics are out back in our place.

And let’s snap their glasses in half while we’re at it.

Any one of the things that happened this cycle is fine. But put them all together... I swear to you all, I’m trying to see the silver lining. So far, bupkis. YMMV

The fact remains, the Kilt doesn’t treat all characters equally. If it read “-1 FORT AND CHOOSE: +6 CON, or +4 DEX +2 CON, or + 4 STR +2 CON” then maybe people would see it. Or maybe not. Because that’s what it DOES say, just in code. But that’s a little off topic, too.

This is a free country. Anyone is allowed to say whatever they want. There are just some people I would prefer stop addressing me.

Understood.

I bid thee condolences and sympathy, for whatever consolation that may provide, and know that I have utmost respect for your involvement and engagement in the discussions!

You aren’t one of them

Didn’t think I was, it I wanted to offer a few kind words nonetheless!