TOPIC: Eldritch and UR Kilt.....Everyone happy?

I also like the +4/+6/+6 idea

Picc wrote: I agree with you for what its worth. I'd also really like to avoid unprecedented patch solutions. 4/6/6 pick one is elegantly simple. Is it really so much more OP then the current kilts?

As someone with absolutely no horse in this race whatsoever, I can tell you that one number being lower than the others doesn't feel particularly elegant - it feels exactly like what it is, a nerf. A general progression would feel more elegant, but I doubt either 4/5/6 or 5/6/7 would hit the right power level, so I don't know if you could do anything to improve on 4/6/6 in a printable fashion, though.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote: If the only remaining issue is for people using the +6DEX to meet item pre-req, how about anyone who transmutes the kilt also gets a slotless token:
Badge of the worthy : +2 DEX, -1 AC, -1 ranged to-hit, -1 reflex.

Doesn’t help my friend who wanted the DEX to improve his range attack

I supported my position with all the math I can muster.

If people don’t want to agree with my conclusion, that’s fine, but I’d appreciate it if people would at least acknowledge I came to them logically.

You definitely did.

I did my best to advocate for your position as well.

MasterED wrote:

Picc wrote: I agree with you for what its worth. I'd also really like to avoid unprecedented patch solutions. 4/6/6 pick one is elegantly simple. Is it really so much more OP then the current kilts?

I could support this if you had to pick one when you transmuted and your new Eldritch said that on the token (no flexibility since the UR didn't have any flexibility).

Ed

I would support that l. I suspect we would be in the minority.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Picc wrote: I agree with you for what its worth. I'd also really like to avoid unprecedented patch solutions. 4/6/6 pick one is elegantly simple. Is it really so much more OP then the current kilts?

I could support this if you had to pick one when you transmuted and your new Eldritch said that on the token (no flexibility since the UR didn't have any flexibility).

Ed

I would support that l. I suspect we would be in the minority.

Anyone who plays single-class (or multi-classes with similar builds) might be likely support it.

I'd support it, but only because I'm in a position to make more than one.

Fiddy wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

MasterED wrote:

Picc wrote: I agree with you for what its worth. I'd also really like to avoid unprecedented patch solutions. 4/6/6 pick one is elegantly simple. Is it really so much more OP then the current kilts?

I could support this if you had to pick one when you transmuted and your new Eldritch said that on the token (no flexibility since the UR didn't have any flexibility).

Ed

I would support that l. I suspect we would be in the minority.

Anyone who plays single-class (or multi-classes with similar builds) might be likely support it.

I'd support it, but only because I'm in a position to make more than one.

Welcome to our minority...

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote:

kurtreznor wrote: If the only remaining issue is for people using the +6DEX to meet item pre-req, how about anyone who transmutes the kilt also gets a slotless token:
Badge of the worthy : +2 DEX, -1 AC, -1 ranged to-hit, -1 reflex.

Doesn’t help my friend who wanted the DEX to improve his range attack

I supported my position with all the math I can muster.

If people don’t want to agree with my conclusion, that’s fine, but I’d appreciate it if people would at least acknowledge I came to them logically.

You definitely did.

I did my best to advocate for your position as well.

Thank you

Looks like MEC wizards got their +6 CON