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TOPIC: Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace

Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #1

With the removal of immunity to spell resistance this year it would be a nice addition to the Legendary shaper necklace that it changes spell damage types to the elemental type you change to. Giving the Druid another option for avoiding elemental resistances on their legendary token.

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #2

Particularly since you can cast spells while polymorphed. It seems like it would fit quite well.
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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #3

What is the damage bonus for elemental vulnerability?

+3? 5? 6?

I think this thing is good enough- no need to basically roll a head slot UR into it as well from my perspective.

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #4

Matthew Hayward wrote: What is the damage bonus for elemental vulnerability?

+3? 5? 6?

I think this thing is good enough- no need to basically roll a head slot UR into it as well from my perspective.


It's less the vulnerability and more the complete negation of spells based on spell resistance. It seems like a fine addition to a Legendary that's focused heavily on non spellcasting bonuses for the hybrid healer/spellcaster class or did I miss bonuses built into this token for the non physical attacker druids?

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #5

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: What is the damage bonus for elemental vulnerability?

+3? 5? 6?

I think this thing is good enough- no need to basically roll a head slot UR into it as well from my perspective.


It's less the vulnerability and more the complete negation of spells based on spell resistance. It seems like a fine addition to a Legendary that's focused heavily on non spellcasting bonuses for the hybrid healer/spellcaster class or did I miss bonuses built into this token for the non physical attacker druids?



Well - if you're not a physical attacker I don't know why you'd want this - I think you'd do better with Medallion of Mystic Mouth or Charm Necklace.

But, as a spellcaster you get:

1. -10 DR of the element of your choice as a free action for the rest of the room (1 choice per room)
2. That's it????

I guess in Grind / Story mode you being an elemental is pretty awesome - so you've got that going for you.

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #6

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: What is the damage bonus for elemental vulnerability?

+3? 5? 6?

I think this thing is good enough- no need to basically roll a head slot UR into it as well from my perspective.


It's less the vulnerability and more the complete negation of spells based on spell resistance. It seems like a fine addition to a Legendary that's focused heavily on non spellcasting bonuses for the hybrid healer/spellcaster class or did I miss bonuses built into this token for the non physical attacker druids?



Well - if you're not a physical attacker I don't know why you'd want this - I think you'd do better with Medallion of Mystic Mouth or Charm Necklace.

But, as a spellcaster you get:

1. -10 DR of the element of your choice as a free action for the rest of the room (1 choice per room)
2. That's it????

I guess in Grind / Story mode you being an elemental is pretty awesome - so you've got that going for you.


I am just of the opinion that if you design a LEGENDARY token for a specific class it should appeal to ALL users of that class.

Or at the very least it should appeal to MOST users of that class as a main.

I don't think I've ever seen a PM build Druid in any game I've played in. Seems odd to make their first class specific token something that doesn't appeal to the core design of the class (healer and caster hybrid)

It's the same reason I fought against the +5 melee bonus on the Wizard Staff of Power when it had no +spell damage.


Maybe I am off and there is a large subset of players who do Polymorph druid, i just can't name any

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #7

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: What is the damage bonus for elemental vulnerability?

+3? 5? 6?

I think this thing is good enough- no need to basically roll a head slot UR into it as well from my perspective.


It's less the vulnerability and more the complete negation of spells based on spell resistance. It seems like a fine addition to a Legendary that's focused heavily on non spellcasting bonuses for the hybrid healer/spellcaster class or did I miss bonuses built into this token for the non physical attacker druids?



Well - if you're not a physical attacker I don't know why you'd want this - I think you'd do better with Medallion of Mystic Mouth or Charm Necklace.

But, as a spellcaster you get:

1. -10 DR of the element of your choice as a free action for the rest of the room (1 choice per room)
2. That's it????

I guess in Grind / Story mode you being an elemental is pretty awesome - so you've got that going for you.


I am just of the opinion that if you design a LEGENDARY token for a specific class it should appeal to ALL users of that class.

Or at the very least it should appeal to MOST users of that class as a main.

I don't think I've ever seen a PM build Druid in any game I've played in. Seems odd to make their first class specific token something that doesn't appeal to the core design of the class (healer and caster hybrid)

It's the same reason I fought against the +5 melee bonus on the Wizard Staff of Power when it had no +spell damage.


Maybe I am off and there is a large subset of players who do Polymorph druid, i just can't name any


I've had one or two memorable encounters with Polymorph druids, and there have been a few in the forums, but I think you're right that it's a less common build (maybe similar to a cranky wizard melee/STR wizard).


I guess I hadn't considered it from that angle - that it might not be super desirable by most Druids today.

Maybe there is a deliberate effort to push polymorph druids to differentiate them from Wizard/Cleric.


Certainly I hope when we get a WIzard legendary it's not targeted at a fringe play stale like Scroll support wizard or something.

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Suggestion on 2019 Legendary Shaper Necklace 5 years 6 months ago #8

There is already precedence in the (incredibly brokenly overpowered) +5 Baton to cater to multiple play styles in the +5 melee hit, +5 spell damage, +5 healing and +5 Polymorph damage.

I see no reason this couldn't provide spellcasters the same elemental typing for spells that it does for polymorphed attacks.

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