TOPIC: No Nightmare/Hardocore runs listed

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

valetutto wrote: Ghost runs are, buying the entire slot at full price and getting the treasure.

Most people don't farm for treasure pulls.

Are you saying that some people have done entire runs as ghost, with nobody actually doing the run and just claiming the 10 slots worth of treasure coins and participation tokens? I hope that is never allowed to happen, that would be an entire run that 10 other people could have participated in.

I wonder how many people have run with multiple bracelets for the express reason of getting extra treasure pulls (instead of wanting the challenge of doing a run with fewer people).

I have done a lot of runs with less than 10 people.
If one person bought whole slot and didn't run it would be a waste of money. The HOP is useless without the stamps. I think people are forgetting that.

Chad, you're the only exception to that, right? Your (very awesome) artifact gives you maximum treasure pulls even if you don't finish, but I guess that just goes for you and not your ghost players since it isn't a group effect.

Mike, I'm indicating that the vast majority of people don't run the runs specifically and only for the token pulls. There are some that take advantage of the free spots but the extra tokens are just a side venture and not the driving purpose.

I've never had a person go through any of my runs trying to solo it and I don't know that I've even heard of someone actually doing that. SInce you actually have to be present at the end to collect and show there wouldn't be a way to just entire ghost purchase nor do I think there should ever be a way to do this. At an absolute bare minimum force 1 dude to walk through the 2hrs so they are time capped and wasting their con.

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Showing your tokens at the start gets them locked in and the stats on the card recorded. Showing them at the end ensures you walk through all the rooms and actually have the tokens at the end. This does prevent someone from trying to hand off their tokens to another group in a different coaching room because in theory you'd have to try and find them at the end of the run as well which is much harder to slip into.

I had heard of at least once instance where someone had bought tickets and cashed in for tokens without going through the Dungeon, but perhaps that is an urban legend

Mike Steele wrote: I had heard of at least once instance where someone had bought tickets and cashed in for tokens without going through the Dungeon, but perhaps that is an urban legend

I have bought one ticket for the dedicated nightmare slots the last two years When I walked in. It was brand new players. So I just went to a director and did not do the run. But that was just for one ticket( because of my artifact)

valetutto wrote: I've never had a person go through any of my runs trying to solo it and I don't know that I've even heard of someone actually doing that.

I solo'd a run once.

It was not at GenCon, but at True Realm, where the ratio of players to tickets was much more favourable than Gencon. I was signed up for a run, and literally NOBODY ELSE was signed up for it. So I didn't go in with 10 tickets, I just ran it by myself.

I did not do it for treasure (in fact, I swapped out my HoP for something to give me more survivability, and I deliberately "failed" one room with a treasure stamp).

My personal suspicion is that solo'ing a run is not really worth it, from a treasure stand-point. The amount you'd need to invest in tickets and in tokens to survive the run (I don't just mean buying URs and Legendaries to gear yourself up, but consumables like healing potions, Saviour stone, Bull's Strengths, Ammo, etc which you need to increase your damage output and cover your push damage) would add up to considerably more than you'd get from selling any treasure and/or completion rewards.

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I had heard of at least once instance where someone had bought tickets and cashed in for tokens without going through the Dungeon, but perhaps that is an urban legend

I have bought one ticket for the dedicated nightmare slots the last two years When I walked in. It was brand new players. So I just went to a director and did not do the run. But that was just for one ticket( because of my artifact)

Chad, for what that Artifact cost you, it should give you some special perks like that, especially when you had planned on a Nightmare run and the group that showed up didn't want to do Nightmare.

I noticed that, since I bought all the four day passes for my family and friends, that they unable to now purchase events. That bites.