TOPIC: 4C combo token

it was mentioned as being 'mulled over'...any news?  mostly curious if we will get that info before true realm.  im sure im not the only one who wants to find out what tokens are being used for it before trading much away.

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Sorry, I pressed Jeff on this one and he replied he promised to get it out before GenCon.  He figures he has a few more months and wants to think about it for a while more, making it relevant to the two year story arc. <br /><br />I am going to at least commit this: we will use ingredients collected from the 2009 and 2010 dungeons only (that could include 2003 retro and what ever we do in 2010).  So if you are worried about ingredients from 2008 (yes, I know we are doing 2008 in 2009, but that is a technicality) do not be.  <br /><br />If you have ingredients left over.  I am working on a bounty type trade in, where I would essentially take all left over ingredients people had not used in trade.  So use them for this year's combos or hang on to them for the future bounty trade, but do not worry about keeping them for the 4C.<br /><br />I will also only use other tokens from the 2010 token series to make up any other components of the recipe.<br /><br />Hopefully that will help?<br />

I think that will help some.  I think probably another thing that concerns some people is wondering what rares the 4c might require.<br /><br />Kim

<br />Sorry, I pressed Jeff on this one and he replied he promised to get it out before GenCon.  He figures he has a few more months and wants to think about it for a while more, making it relevant to the two year story arc. <br /><br />I am going to at least commit this: we will use ingredients collected from the 2009 and 2010 dungeons only (that could include 2003 retro and what ever we do in 2010).  So if you are worried about ingredients from 2008 (yes, I know we are doing 2008 in 2009, but that is a technicality) do not be.  <br /><br />If you have ingredients left over.  I am working on a bounty type trade in, where I would essentially take all left over ingredients people had not used in trade.  So use them for this year's combos or hang on to them for the future bounty trade, but do not worry about keeping them for the 4C.<br /><br />I will also only use other tokens from the 2010 token series to make up any other components of the recipe.<br /><br />Hopefully that will help?<br /><br />

<br /><br />Dave,<br /><br />If the 4C Combo token is made available in 2010, it can be really tough to use 2010 Ingredient Tokens in it, since a lot of time you draw an uneven assortment of tokens at the convention and need to do trading afterwards to get sets (which you wouldn't be able to do if you had to trade in for the combo at the same 2010 convention you got the 2010 ingredient tokens at).  <br /><br />Any chance you could do it like you did last time, and use the all the 2008 and 2009 Ingredient Tokens for the Combo, and at most require one Ingredient Token (any one) from 2010?  I guess that might make 10 Ingredient Tokens required - 3 from 2008 normal, 3 from 2009 Retro, 3 from 2009 normal, and then one from 2010.  <br /><br />That would accomplish two things - allow all the 2008 Ingredient Tokens to be part of a 4C Combo, and not make people try to complete a set of the 2010 Ingredient Tokens at the same GENCON that they are having to trade for the 4C Combo.  You could then make a complete set of the 2010 Ingredient Tokens a part of the next (2012?) 4C Combo Token.  <br /><br />Oh - and what do you mean by a bounty-type trade-in?  Is that something like trading in ingredient tokens from past years to get current year ingredient tokens?  Or is it more like trading in 25 of any assortment of Ingredient Tokens to get a special "bounty" token?  <br /><br />Thanks!<br />Mike

thanks dave, thats the kind of info i was looking for.  i wouldnt have been so urgent about it, but i got in my head that the 4C would be this year...probably because i have all these 2008 ingredients, and 2-year, so i thought 08-09...but anyway, thanks for the info.

Mike,<br />We will do what we did last year, which is to require at least one of the 2010 ingredients.  So at the very least you will have the three or so from the new 2009 module, the three from the retro 2003 module, and at least one from the new 2010 module.  If we do a new "retro" module (i.e., 2004 retro), I might ask for at least one from that as well.  If it poses too great a challenge, we could consider makeing the 4C token available in 2011 as well as 2010.<br /><br />We kind of made the decision that we wanted the 4C tokens to be tied to the story arc, which leaves the bulk of 2008 ingredients in the cold, that is why I am working on a bounty type trade in.<br /><br />W/r to the trophy bounty, I am talking more in lines of x amount of trade items for y amout of some new trade item.  I may try and make up a special trade item for discretional type trading (i.e., my call) that the inputs of which can change from year to year as it needs to (e.g., this year bounties, next year rings or something), but all that is still speculation until I get final approval from Jeff.<br /><br />Dave<br /><br />

another idea: what about a combo item that requires X number of ingredients, regardless of what ingredient they are.  not sure how you would categorize it, but it would give a purpose to the old ingredients, and not exclude those who dont have them (they can use the newer ingredients if they want).

<br />another idea: what about a combo item that requires X number of ingredients, regardless of what ingredient they are.  not sure how you would categorize it, but it would give a purpose to the old ingredients, and not exclude those who dont have them (they can use the newer ingredients if they want).<br />

<br />Good idea!

Thanks Dave.  Hopefully there will be another use for the older ingredient tokens.  They were pretty plentiful in the 2008 Dungeon, and the new Combo tokens won't use up very many of them. 

<br />another idea: what about a combo item that requires X number of ingredients, regardless of what ingredient they are.  not sure how you would categorize it, but it would give a purpose to the old ingredients, and not exclude those who dont have them (they can use the newer ingredients if they want).<br />

<br /><br />That also might work, I will keep that in mind for the next series.

OK-- I'm not sure where to ask this-- the thread that I am referring to is locked from replies--<br /><br />On the trade tokens--  the gear and weapons-- am I understanding it correctly, we can only use the items and weapons from this year or should I say last year?    Or can we use previous years?  We have tokens dating all the way back to '04 I think...  Can we use the woodies and such for the trade tokens?<br /><br />Thanks for your help...