TOPIC: 2009 Rare Tokens -- Feedback Please!

Here is the first draft of the Rare tokens...<br /><br />Enjoy and let me know what you think.  Thanks!<br /><br /><br /><br />[attachment deleted by admin]

Looks good!<br /><br />The +1 Kopis is the equivalent of a +1 Longsword, so either the Rogue shouldn't be allowed to use it, or the damage wheel should be similar to the +1 Shortsword.  <br /><br />

They look great, although the Fey Wand seems a little strange looking.<br /><br />I like the runestones, but I think there needs to be an Autumn runestone to finish the set.<br /><br />Does a torc take up the neck slot?  My wizard needs the AC, but I don't want to lose my AoW.<br /><br />I like the White Lotus Treasure - I'll need that, and I'll take a Black Lotus as well!<br /><br />I like the Oil of Smiting - Keen Edge for blunt weapons.<br /><br />MTC if I think of anything.<br /><br />

I'm so going to end up a squished pixie by the end of this year! Jeff what did I ever do to you?  :sad5:

Winter Runestone and Ferret Runestone (U) are the same.<br /><br />Hat of the Escape looks like the Sorting Hat?<br /><br />I can see an acorn being worth money, since it can be grown into a special type of tree.  But a flower?  It looks like it would only be worth 100gp for about 2 days, then turn into a dead nasty flower.<br /><br />That's all I see from a first run through - this set of slingstones is really neat looking!<br />

very nice.  and while i have been getting extremely anxious and impatient this week waiting to see all the tokens (and still waiting on the URs...GAH), i want to take a moment to say thanks for all the hard work and especially for letting us be a part of the decision making process.  ok, now to comments:<br /><br />the damage wheel on a few of the weapons there are issues with sixes and nines getting mixed up.<br /><br />faerie-iron club still seems REALLY powerful.  rogue can use it, and avg damage with +1 is the same as a +2 short sword.  i would presume that a ranger can use this as an off-hand weapon...as such, the +1 mithral long sword loses a little of its specialness.  as i said before, the basic faerie-iron club is just very strong, but not too much so, i feel like the +1 version starts to detract from the power of ultra-rares.  i would suggest either making it equivalent to a short sword in damage, or a long sword in usage...or at least give a reasoning why it is so powerful comparatively.<br /><br />the above paragraph applies to the kopis as well.

My first confusion was with the +1 Arrow of Doom, why does it have a separate damage wheel?<br /><br />Torcs are neck slot items.<br /><br />What happened to the Hat of Useful things?  Not enough space for the text?<br /><br />Should the Javelin of Lightning be usable by the same classes as the bone javelin (Barbarian, Bard, fighter, paladin, ranger & rogue)?<br /><br />Shouldn't the +1 Faerie shield be usable by the same classes that can use the uncommon version of the  Faerie shield (Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Fighter and Paladin)?<br /><br />The Faerie Shield +1 is missing its hand symbol, as is the Shuriken +1<br /><br />I am sure I will see others, but I do like the list, and I am OK with the rogue getting the Kopis +1, glad to see they get a damage boost.<br /><br />The White Lotus is a parody of the whole Magic the Gathering "Black Lotus" card I suspect.<br /><br /><br />

I just noticed something about the long spear (both the rare and uncommon) is that it is usable by the Ranger, yet it requires 2 hands to use.  This is the first 2 handed melee weapon usable by the ranger, does that mean the ranger, when using this weapon, only slides once?  Or should the ranger not be allowed to use this weapon, keeping in theme with his dual wield abilities?<br /><br />Also noticed the Darkwood Staff (uncommon and common) is usable by all, but the original Quarterstaff (and its +1, +2, and striking versions) excludes the Ranger and the Rogue.  Shouldn't those restrictions also apply to the new version of these items?

- The Arrow of Doom is a little confusing since it has its own damage wheel. So do you slide the Arrow instead of the Bow? Do you not need a Bow at all? You just throw the Arrow for damage?<br /><br />- The arrangement of numbers for the Faerie-Iron Club is off. It is currently: 2-2-3-5-6-8-6-6 (shouldn't the 8 be at the very end after the other 6's?).<br /><br />- Last year the Tower Shield set a new standard. Now the +1 Faerie-Iron Shield is even better than the Tower Shield (identical but with the extra benefit against Fey). Seems like pretty clear power creep to me.<br /><br />- Similarly, Faerie-Iron Armor completely outclasses Elven Chainmail. Both provide +5 AC normally. The Faerie-Iron then provides an additional (even if conditional) bonus. Elven Chainmail is now worthless!<br /><br />- Hopefully the Hat of Escape will be balanced in comparison to the Ring of Sanctuary and the Cloak of Elvenkind. (Especially since for most classes, you don't have many choices for a head slot). Of course this issue can be dealt with in the item description rather than the token appearance.<br /><br />- With the Ioun Stone Violet Prism, just make sure that the DM's clearly know what level a particular spell is.

The ferret and winter runestones aren't identical, are they?  The winter stone increases cold damage, the ferret stone increases saves, doesn't it?

<br />The ferret and winter runestones aren't identical, are they?  The winter stone increases cold damage, the ferret stone increases saves, doesn't it?<br />

<br /><br /><br />I think he's talking about the picture.

Erp! =|<br /><br />I assume the javelin is a ranged weapon?<br /><br />

<br />I just noticed something about the long spear (both the rare and uncommon) is that it is usable by the Ranger, yet it requires 2 hands to use.  This is the first 2 handed melee weapon usable by the ranger, does that mean the ranger, when using this weapon, only slides once?  Or should the ranger not be allowed to use this weapon, keeping in theme with his dual wield abilities?<br /><br />Also noticed the Darkwood Staff (uncommon and common) is usable by all, but the original Quarterstaff (and its +1, +2, and striking versions) excludes the Ranger and the Rogue.  Shouldn't those restrictions also apply to the new version of these items?

<br /><br />Maybe the ranger can use it as a ranged weapon, but not a melee weapon?<br /><br />The pics of the rings are wicked awesome!<br /><br />