TOPIC: Token guide errata

Well it looks like I am now 4 tokens closer to a 2003 set - thanks to DAVE for ruling out 4 I had open on my Token Tracker.<br /><br />WHOO HOO!<br /><br /><br />OH and just to clarify - in 2004 there was NO RED Scroll of CLW (8) RIGHT?<br />

<br />Well it looks like I am now 4 tokens closer to a 2003 set - thanks to DAVE for ruling out 4 I had open on my Token Tracker.<br /><br />WHOO HOO!<br /><br /><br />OH and just to clarify - in 2004 there was NO RED Scroll of CLW (8) RIGHT?<br /><br />

<br />Gary, I will confirm that in 2004, there was NO RED Scroll of CLW. <br /><br />How close are you anyways to a set of 2003? That's awesome if you are anywhere close!

Not even 50% yet...but it is the ultimate goal!

This is a possible list from 2003 - based on a combination of info from the Token Guide, the TD Fans website, and this thread.  It has 37 commons and uncommons, and 29 rares.  I don't know how you could get up to 36 or 37 rares if there were no weapons in the set - those are the bulk of the adds in the 2004 rare set.  And what's up with a Bone Map Case?  Was there one, or is it just a misremembering of a Bone Scroll Case?<br /><br />Rarity Token<br />C - 1 Gold Piece<br />C - 10 GP Citrine Gem<br />C - 10 GP Lodestone Gem<br />C - 15 GP Turquoise Gem<br />C - 2 Gold Pieces<br />C - 3 Gold Pieces<br />C - 4 Gold Pieces<br />C - 5 Gold Pieces<br />C - 5 GP Crystal Gem<br />C - 5 GP Geo Gem<br />C - 5 GP Quartz Gem<br />C - 6 Gold Pieces<br />C - 7 Gold Pieces<br />C - 8 Gold Pieces<br />C - 9 Gold Pieces<br />C - Anti-toxin<br />C - Bone Map Case<br />C - Flint and Steel<br />C - Holy Water<br />C - Minor Rumor<br />C - Potion - Cure Minor Wounds<br />C - Potion - Detect Magic<br />C - Rope - 50 ft<br />C - Scroll - Burning Hands<br />C - Scroll - Detect Magic<br />C - Scroll - Detect Poison<br />C - Scroll - Detect Secret Doors<br />C - Scroll - Detect Undead<br />C - Scroll - Feather Fall<br />C - Scroll - Light<br />C - Scroll - Magic Missile<br />C - Scroll - Sanctuary<br />C - Scroll - Shocking Grasp<br />C - Small Steel Mirror<br />C - Special ?<br />C - Steel Flask<br />C - Waterskin<br />U - 10 Gold Pieces<br />U - 11 Gold Pieces<br />U - 12 Gold Pieces<br />U - 13 Gold Pieces<br />U - 14 Gold Pieces<br />U - 15 Gold Pieces<br />U - 20 GP Agate Gem<br />U - 20 GP Azurite Gem<br />U - 20 GP Hematite Gem<br />U - 25 GP Lapis Lazuli Gem<br />U - 25 GP Malachite Gem<br />U - 30 GP Obsidian Gem<br />U - 30 GP Tiger Eye Gem<br />U - 35 GP Bloodstone Gem<br />U - Alchemist Fire<br />U - Cloak of Resistance +1<br />U - Dust of Appearance<br />U - Medium Rumor<br />U - MW Bard's Instrument<br />U - MW Thieves' Tools<br />U - Potion - Cure Lt. Wounds - 5 pts<br />U - Potion - Darkvision<br />U - Potion - Detect Secret Doors<br />U - Potion - Endure Elements<br />U - Potion - See Invisibility<br />U - Scroll - Bless<br />U - Scroll - Disrupt Undead<br />U - Scroll - Endure Elements<br />U - Scroll - Identify<br />U - Scroll - Knock<br />U - Scroll - Melf's Acid Arrow<br />U - Scroll - Prot. from Evil<br />U - Scroll - Purify Food and Drink<br />U - Scroll - Read Magic<br />U - Scroll - Remove Paralysis<br />U - Smokestick<br />U - Special ??<br />R - 100 GP Garnet Gem<br />R - 20 Gold Pieces<br />R - 25 Gold Pieces<br />R - 50 GP Moonstone Gem<br />R - 50 GP Onyx Gem<br />R - 75 GP Amethyst Gem<br />R - Amulet of Armor +1<br />R - Boots of Elvenkind<br />R - Bracers of Archery<br />R - Bracers of Defense +1<br />R - Cloak of Elvenkind<br />R - Cloak of Resistance +2<br />R - Elixir of Life<br />R - Gauntlets of Ogre Power<br />R - Hourglass of Answers<br />R - Ring of Feather Fall<br />R - Scroll - Cure Light Wounds - 8<br />R - Scroll - Flame Arrow<br />R - Scroll - Keen Edge<br />R - Scroll - Mage Armor<br />R - Scroll - Remove Curse<br />R - Scroll - Remove Disease<br />R - Scroll - Slow Poison<br />R - Special ???<br />R - Thunderstone<br />R - Wand of Cure Lt. Wounds<br />R - Wand of Detect Magic<br />R - Wand of Magic Missile<br />R - Wand of Melf's Acid Arrow<br />

I have two 2003 Bone Map Cases...<br /><br />yup 29 Rares...

This is a possible list from 2004 - based on a combination of info from the Token Guide, the TD Fans website, and this thread.  This one has 37 commons and uncommons, and 36 rares. <br /><br />Rarity Token<br />C - 1 Gold Piece<br />C - 10 GP Citrine Gem<br />C - 10 GP Loadstone Gem<br />C - 15 GP Turquoise Gem<br />C - 2 Gold Pieces<br />C - 3 Gold Pieces<br />C - 4 Gold Pieces<br />C - 5 Gold Pieces<br />C - 5 GP Crystal Gem<br />C - 5 GP Geo Gem<br />C - 5 GP Quartz Gem<br />C - 6 Gold Pieces<br />C - 7 Gold Pieces<br />C - 8 Gold Pieces<br />C - 9 Gold Pieces<br />C - Anti-toxin<br />C - Bone Map Case<br />C - Flint and Steel<br />C - Holy Water<br />C - Minor Rumor<br />C - Potion - Cure Minor Wounds<br />C - Potion - Detect Magic<br />C - Rope - 50 ft<br />C - Scroll - Burning Hands<br />C - Scroll - Comprehend Lang<br />C - Scroll - Detect Magic<br />C - Scroll - Detect Poison<br />C - Scroll - Detect Secret Doors<br />C - Scroll - Detect Undead<br />C - Scroll - Feather Fall<br />C - Scroll - Magic Missile<br />C - Scroll - Sanctuary<br />C - Scroll - Shocking Grasp<br />C - Small Steel Mirror<br />C - Special ?<br />C - Steel Flask<br />C - Waterskin<br />U - 10 Gold Pieces<br />U - 11 Gold Pieces<br />U - 12 Gold Pieces<br />U - 13 Gold Pieces<br />U - 14 Gold Pieces<br />U - 15 Gold Pieces<br />U - 20 GP Agate Gem<br />U - 20 GP Azurite Gem<br />U - 20 GP Hematite Gem<br />U - 25 GP Lapis Lazuli Gem<br />U - 25 GP Malachite Gem<br />U - 30 GP Obsidian Gem<br />U - 30 GP Tiger Eye Gem<br />U - 35 GP Bloodstone Gem<br />U - Alchemist Fire<br />U - Cloak of Resistance +1<br />U - Dust of Appearance<br />U - Medium Rumor<br />U - MW Bard's Instrument<br />U - MW Thieves' Tools<br />U - Potion - Darkvision<br />U - Potion - Detect Secret Doors<br />U - Potion - Endure Elements<br />U - Potion - See Invisibility<br />U - Scroll - Bless<br />U - Scroll - Cure Light Wounds -5<br />U - Scroll - Disrupt Undead<br />U - Scroll - Endure Elements<br />U - Scroll - Identify<br />U - Scroll - Knock<br />U - Scroll - Melf's Acid Arrow<br />U - Scroll - Prot. from Evil<br />U - Scroll - Purify Food and Drink<br />U - Scroll - Read Magic<br />U - Scroll - Remove Paralysis<br />U - Smokestick<br />U - Special ??<br />R - 100 GP Garnet Gem<br />R - 20 Gold Pieces<br />R - 25 Gold Pieces<br />R - 50 GP Moonstone Gem<br />R - 50 GP Onyx Gem<br />R - 75 GP Amethyst Gem<br />R - Amulet of Armor +1<br />R - Boots of Elvenkind<br />R - Bracers of Archery<br />R - Bracers of Defense +1<br />R - Cloak of Elvenkind<br />R - Cloak of Resistance +2<br />R - Dagger +1<br />R - Elixir of Life<br />R - Gauntlets of Ogre Power<br />R - Great Axe +1<br />R - Great Sword +1<br />R - Hourglass of Answers<br />R - Long Sword +1<br />R - Potion - Cure Lt Wounds - 5 pts<br />R - Potion - Haste<br />R - Quarterstaff +1<br />R - Ring of Feather Fall<br />R - Scroll - Cure Light Wounds - 8<br />R - Scroll - Flame Arrow<br />R - Scroll - Keen Edge<br />R - Scroll - Mage Armor<br />R - Scroll - Remove Curse<br />R - Scroll - Remove Disease<br />R - Scroll - Slow Poison<br />R - Short Sword +1<br />R - Special ???<br />R - Thunderstone<br />R - Wand of Cure Lt. Wounds<br />R - Wand of Detect Magic<br />R - Wand of Magic Missile<br />R - Wand of Melf's Acid Arrow<br />S - Ring of Regeneration<br />S - Ring of Three Wishes<br />

<br />I have two 2003 Bone Map Cases...<br />

<br /><br />Also 2004s?  And was there a Bone Scroll Case in either year?  And, just what IS the meaning of life?  <br /><br />(Expected answers:  Yes, No, I dunno) 

8x 2004 Bone Map Cases...<br /><br />Bone Scroll started in 2007...<br /><br />ANSWER: TOKENS - of course!

<br />OH and just to clarify - in 2004 there was NO RED Scroll of CLW ( 8 ) RIGHT?<br />

<br /><br />Correct, there was only a potion of CLW ( 5 )

There are 36 of each standard token class common (brown) Rare (green) and very rare (red) for 2003, 2004, 2005a, 2005b).  It has to do with the way the tokens were printed and the limits on the numbers of unique tokens that caused.<br /><br />Ultra Rare tokens varied from just 2 (volunteer thank you's) in 2004 to 20 listed in 2008 (there may be a few more that Jeff has not published yet)<br /><br />If you were getting your counts from the Token guide matrix, I obviously made a mistake, I will double check the matrix before I issue it for version 7.  <br /><br />I have gone over that thing so many times however, I guess I am shocked there are that many errors.  I would be inclined to say use the token guide matrix as your first reference.  Unless you see that there is some other published official TD listing that shows differently (such as having your own copy of the insert that accompanied the 2003 tokens), no offense intended but I am not sure I would trust it.  Honestly, I have never counted the totals listed in the matrix for each year (but they should add up to 36), I will have to do that, but I would be surprised if they were off more than one or so.<br /><br />When I publish the next version of the guide, I would be happy to export a copy of the matrix to an Excel file and post it.

Dave,<br /><br />I think you may be mistaken on the number of 03 REDS...like Binia said - without weapons we would need 7 RARES that were not in the 2004 or following sets.  I think the count is 29 - maybe 30 at most.<br /><br />The only woodie I have as uncommon in 03 that went RARE in 04 is the potion of CLW (5) - was that RED or GREEN in 03 and was it GREEN or RED in 04?  (I don't have one for either year.)

Gary,<br /><br />  Not that I have any of them, but I am pretty sure +1 weapons were included in the 2003 printing. <br /><br />David