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TOPIC: UR for the rest of us:)

Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #13

Still Mike, the problem with that is devaluation of existing tokens that were printed in sets.<br /><br />To keep that from happening and to keep collectors happy - you don't allow them to be obtainable from TD from year to year...that is what makes trading fun and keeps that going.<br /><br />What I think we need here are NEW tokens that everyone can (only) trade for - (large surplus - available many years) and something that preserves the value and collectibility of the tokens.  (ala Reserve Bars - only now we need weapons/armor...)
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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #14

<br />Another option to limit trades in a way would be to make the trade in level related. For example of those people who have reached Lvl 3 or even 4 have the option to trade in rares for a UR.<br /><br />Kinda of a level related bonus for playing year after year and you could even hole punch their badge or keep a data base and only allow 1 trade per person.<br />

<br /><br />I am all for finding more Level bonuses...but not if it causes de-valuation of UR tokens.  That should be protected at all costs or we would be looking at URs everywhere, and that would take away from them quite a bit (as well as impact REDS - afterall the URs are now easier to get).  The PYP took a small bite from the UR rarity - but when you consider the increased revenue to TD - well, that is really worth it.  Afterall, we need TD to stick around or the tokens are just nice momentos!<br /><br />I remember the day when I got my first UR - it was a big day...every gift or trade for one is still a thrill.  I'd hate to see that gone for the new players or old for that matter.
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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #15

Another option:<br /><br />Would be to create a serperate trade in line of tokens, with a different color or choose say 4 or 5 UR's and give them a different Border instead of Gold or Plat for example Silver.<br /><br />Instead of a selection of all UR's choose a short list <br /><br />ie<br />Horn of plenty<br />Amulet of Wonder<br />Ektdar's tinkering tool<br />Gloves of Dex<br />Cloak of mage<br /><br />Or choose 5 that fits a more simple class goal<br /><br />ie Ektdar's tinkering tool if you are playing a rogue when you do the trade etc<br /><br />There has to be a way to provide for everyone's needs<br />I hope<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />

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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #16

That is kinda in the same class of idea as the one I had using alternate art...<br /><br />Leave the UR Set tokens out of the equation - and create totally "new" tokens for trade in. 
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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #17

<br />Still Mike, the problem with that is devaluation of existing tokens that were printed in sets.<br /><br />To keep that from happening and to keep collectors happy - you don't allow them to be obtainable from TD from year to year...that is what makes trading fun and keeps that going.<br /><br />What I think we need here are NEW tokens that everyone can (only) trade for - (large surplus - available many years) and something that preserves the value and collectibility of the tokens.  (ala Reserve Bars - only now we need weapons/armor...)<br />

<br /><br />Hey Bro, if you mean doing last year's set devalues it - I can kind of buy that argument, and I'd have no problem with limiting the unique print run to this year's tokens.  <br /><br />But, as long as you don't do a special run of PURPs (which would devalue the PURPs somewhat), I don't think it devalues the tokens at all.  I'm talking about doing a special print run, with a different color token (maybe copper) or a different color token sticker (a blue background for instance), of maybe 5 of each token.  <br /><br />If you figure that there are - what - probably 1000 of each Gold Rare printed, and 100 of each PLAT Rare printed - doing another 5 in a special print run would have no impact at all on the Gold/PLAT prices, as the special print run's quantities would be insignificant compared to the regular print run tokens. 

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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #18

ahh... but do the collectors wnat ANOTHER thing to have to get Each Year?  I'm just kidding.<br /><br />I like the idea of 'totally New" or "the Special run" Mike mentioned  these are both good ideas.<br /><br />Perhaps Ideas of tiken similar but lesser in nature to known UR's?<br />A "horn of Slighly more than you need?  +1 token draw at chest?...stuff like that.
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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #19

I there was a different color and rarer token run then smak would never rest again.  Are you prepared to take a life for those different color tokens?
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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #20

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Re: UR for the rest of us:) 16 years 3 months ago #21

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