TOPIC: Tokens for sale

True dungeon tokens. Nightmare before christmas CCG. d20 Tokkens. RPG dice (Chessex).  Hecatomb CCG. Pirates (Wizkids).<br /><br />It'd probably be easier to list what I actually do buy from the secondary market as far as gaming is involved and the lump sum of that are old 2nd edition D&D books.

<br />True dungeon tokens. Nightmare before christmas CCG. d20 Tokkens. RPG dice (Chessex).  Hecatomb CCG. Pirates (Wizkids).<br /><br />It'd probably be easier to list what I actually do buy from the secondary market as far as gaming is involved and the lump sum of that are old 2nd edition D&D books.<br />

<br /><br />Really? Does Jeff know you're buying the tokens directly from the manufacturer he's ordering them from?  :tongue3:

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<br />True dungeon tokens. Nightmare before christmas CCG. d20 Tokkens. RPG dice (Chessex).  Hecatomb CCG. Pirates (Wizkids).<br /><br />It'd probably be easier to list what I actually do buy from the secondary market as far as gaming is involved and the lump sum of that are old 2nd edition D&D books.<br />

<br /><br />Really? Does Jeff know you're buying the tokens directly from the manufacturer he's ordering them from?  :tongue3:<br />

<br /><br />Primary market dosen't mean from whatever manufacturers it, nor does secondary mean that it's changed hands once. From a financial perspective, primary is from the issuer and secondary means buying from those who have purchased from the primary for investment or resale purposes. In layman's terms though, secondary market means the item in question is used.

Henwy doesn't like it when he's not the only one being sarcastic.  :tongue3:

I get what you're saying, Henwy.  I'll feel a lot better if I can find a trade instead of getting cash for my token.  And I have had lots of people offer me D&D/TD swag trades for my token.  But, working up a trade can be hard!  Cash is so easy.  How do you value how much a TD prop is worth or a D&D module?  eBay helps some, but it's just hard.  But I'm a gonna feel so much better if I can work out a trade rather than take cash.<br /><br />The only other token I have is the Savior Stone we got last year for volunteering.  Nobody seems to be clamoring for a Savior Stone, and I kinda like it.  I like the +2 Longsword as well, but it seems like it's really wanted by and useful to people.  *shrugs*<br /><br />Man, I only own 2 tokens and they're both purple.  Who can say that on here!  :icon_cheers:<br /><br />I really hope I haven't offended anyone.<br /><br />Jenett<br />

Nah. It's every man's right to make out like a bandit when the going is good. God knows I've made a mint on ebay selling crap to morons lately. Besides, it's nothing that any one, or half a dozen people could change.<br /><br />I would've pitched an offer in ad&d modules if it weren't for the fact that most of my stuff is 2nd edition, and all the 1st ed things I have is unsorted and hodge podge. I spent a good chunk of time buying everything I wanted after TSR got bought out.

<br />The only other token I have is the Savior Stone we got last year for volunteering.  Nobody seems to be clamoring for a Savior Stone, and I kinda like it.  I like the +2 Longsword as well, but it seems like it's really wanted by and useful to people.  *shrugs*<br />

<br />*sniffle....sniffle*<br />I want a savoir stone!<br />*sniffle....sniffle*<br />

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<br />The only other token I have is the Savior Stone we got last year for volunteering.  Nobody seems to be clamoring for a Savior Stone, and I kinda like it.  I like the +2 Longsword as well, but it seems like it's really wanted by and useful to people.  *shrugs*<br />

<br />*sniffle....sniffle*<br />I want a savoir stone!<br />*sniffle....sniffle*<br />

<br /><br />Well, too bad!  It's all mine.  Because it's one of the tokens that only volunteers got, I don't think I can sell it.  Also, it reminds me of my time volunteering last year.  So, I'd like to keep that one.  In fact, this is a brilliant move on Jeff's part - give out tokens you can only get by volunteering and the token-a-holics will volunteer in droves.  :icon_jokercolor:

<br />It needs a critical mass of participation. The way I figure it, the more of a secondary market, the more the primary market suffers, at least with a small population. In a large economy, it actually spurs on the primary market. As it stands, all token resale is doing is surpressing token purchasing since it avoids the randomness aspect of things. Why pay to TD for a random podge when you can get exactly what you want direct, even if at a markup.<br />

<br /><br />You're ignoring the point that there has been a secondary market in True Dungeon since the start of tokens, in the trading of tokens, primarily through the Forums.  There is already a system set up where people can get the exact tokens that they need, by trading for them rather than by having to continually buy random bags of tokens to try to get what they want.  I don't think that buying tokens on Ebay makes the primary market suffer any more than trading tokens does.  In fact, it could easily be argued that having the opportunity to buy tokens on Ebay could spur token sales, because someone might buy some tokens on Ebay, get interested in collecting tokens, and then move to buying tokens directly from True Dungeon - especially to get the Ultra-Rares, which are rarely offered for sale. 

Hey, I offered to go to the college town nearby and raid their used D&D stores for you.  Just say the word and I'm there.<br /><br /><br />JKW

<br /><br />Well, too bad!  It's all mine.  Because it's one of the tokens that only volunteers got, I don't think I can sell it.  Also, it reminds me of my time volunteering last year.  So, I'd like to keep that one.  In fact, this is a brilliant move on Jeff's part - give out tokens you can only get by volunteering and the token-a-holics will volunteer in droves.   :icon_jokercolor: <br />

<br /><br />Hate to burst your bubble hun, but volunteers were not the only ones that got it. People who did dungeon runs on wednesday were also supposed to receive them, though not all did.

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<br />It needs a critical mass of participation. The way I figure it, the more of a secondary market, the more the primary market suffers, at least with a small population. In a large economy, it actually spurs on the primary market. As it stands, all token resale is doing is surpressing token purchasing since it avoids the randomness aspect of things. Why pay to TD for a random podge when you can get exactly what you want direct, even if at a markup.<br />

<br /><br />You're ignoring the point that there has been a secondary market in True Dungeon since the start of tokens, in the trading of tokens, primarily through the Forums.  There is already a system set up where people can get the exact tokens that they need, by trading for them rather than by having to continually buy random bags of tokens to try to get what they want.  I don't think that buying tokens on Ebay makes the primary market suffer any more than trading tokens does.  In fact, it could easily be argued that having the opportunity to buy tokens on Ebay could spur token sales, because someone might buy some tokens on Ebay, get interested in collecting tokens, and then move to buying tokens directly from True Dungeon - especially to get the Ultra-Rares, which are rarely offered for sale.  <br />

<br /><br />I hate to agree with Henwy but I think he has a point.  The secondary Trading market does not take money out of the system, eBay does.  To trade, people need to buy tokens.  With eBay, people can simply bypass True Dungeon and spend their money on tokens directly.  The only relevant factor that I could see is that the people selling tokens on eBay now have more money to spend on tokens.  Whether people who sell tokens on eBay intend to buy more tokens or not, I don't know.