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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #1

Hey Team,

Had a few questions. As this year continues to move forward, I have been sorting all VTD loot and making my lists. I know some changes such as polymorphism are coming and the potions for these forms are no longer collected on use for Druids, but when it comes to scrolls, I have quite a few of the C /UC / R scrolls. I have zero use form then as a Paladin / Fighter. Is it worth keeping these to pass onto a Wizard ally or possibly for trade ? I know I need the trade goods, but when I read the scrolls themselves, for instance, one UC does 5 dmg to target. Is that even worth keeping or do the get power ups in the wizard / elf wizard class ?

The reason I ask is, although I know I need the AI, I also know that in many of my runs, Wizards, Elf Wizards, Bard, and Druids cast spells to help the team. I don’t want to mulch them if they have usefulness to them.

Any advice or insight is greatly appreciated.

Respectfully

Tyraël The Just

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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #2

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I run a NM wizard, and I can't remember the last time I used a scroll. Well, I can, but it is very rare. There are very few tokens that boost scroll damage, so higher level wizards are better off casting 0-level spells with their damage bonuses.

That being said, I think scrolls (and wands) can be useful for lower level wizards. Plus, there are scrolls that are super useful in specific situations. Fighting a medusa? Better have a few Stone to Flesh scrolls. Barbarian being mind-controlled by a psychic enemy? How about a Scroll Mind Blank?

I'd check with your cleric/druid/bard/wizards to see if they have specific needs.
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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #3

bpsymington wrote: I run a NM wizard, and I can't remember the last time I used a scroll. Well, I can, but it is very rare. There are very few tokens that boost scroll damage, so higher level wizards are better off casting 0-level spells with their damage bonuses.

That being said, I think scrolls (and wands) can be useful for lower level wizards. Plus, there are scrolls that are super useful in specific situations. Fighting a medusa? Better have a few Stone to Flesh scrolls. Barbarian being mind-controlled by a psychic enemy? How about a Scroll Mind Blank?

I'd check with your cleric/druid/bard/wizards to see if they have specific needs.


I do like situational tokens like that. I bring very few consumable tokens for our group (the token backpack is already too heavy without them) but I do always bring a few Stone to Flesh Scrolls and Potions of Death Door. :)

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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #4

2023, I'd only consider keeping Inertia Shield and Tinkerer Shield and those are going to be pretty much only worth it to hedgehog players, where I don't know if they bother or not, so it could be that none of 2023 are worth saving.

The scrolls I like to keep are ones that do interesting things like Plane Step or fix problems like Magic Circle, but I never use any scrolls, so I've thinned my keeps quite a bit from what I used to have.

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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #5

bpsymington wrote: Barbarian being mind-controlled by a psychic enemy? How about a Scroll Mind Blank?


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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #6

As a NM Cleric I do use scrolls. My boost is only 5 or so, but they are really the only damage I can do in combat since all my stats are geared to healing.
With out a few Holy Hails or Sacred Bursts, I can do no combat damage other than my few spells (Spiritual Hammer and Searing Light).
So combat one, basically I can do Prayer, then a scroll of Bless to help out. Beyond that I kind of watch. I am a combat medic.
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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #7

Does your Wizard ally have a Tome of Useful scrolls? With a free action it makes corner-case-handling UC/C scrolls (e.g., Rain Shower to outline invisibles) or protective buffs (e.g., Protect from Evil) much more useful and a lighter load to carry. Maybe your ally will want to check your collection for such and then you can mulch the rest.

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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #8

Remove woe from 2022 was a great scroll because it’s useful for six different things. Was quite useful this last dungeon
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The Scrolls of 2023 1 year 1 week ago #9

Andy Strassmann wrote: Does your Wizard ally have a Tome of Useful scrolls? With a free action it makes corner-case-handling UC/C scrolls (e.g., Rain Shower to outline invisibles) or protective buffs (e.g., Protect from Evil) much more useful and a lighter load to carry. Maybe your ally will want to check your collection for such and then you can mulch the rest.


I currently have no team or reg group. I had been away for 6 years near due to Life, but still keep collecting here and there until mid last year when I can’t back for Skull con. From there I have been regrowing my collection and learning new things. Getting my VTD on and having a blast! The Allies would just be those who need them and will make Goode use of them.

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