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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #1

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So I am new to the forums this year, I saw in token proclamations that 2026 would have a treasure booster that uses Amulet of Treasure Finding as part of its recipe. Is this safe to assume is still the plan? Cause I'd like a chance to build something like a CoA. It'd be nice to be on top of things in such a way that a big treasure pull item is actually semi-affordable.

Basically, since I gotta buy second hand, I'd like to know before I pull the trigger :lol:

Also I'd appreciate anything people know about this possible new TE since there is only so much I can find in 5+ years of forum history

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #2

No one knows but Jeff and even then he may still be undecided. Its up to you if you feel comfortable buying one now or waiting.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #3

For reference, the Charm of Avarice had two recipes, one that required a token that was a decade out of print, and one with a "point system" where older tokens were worth more points. This "point buy" system also allowed the Amulet you seek, which was not part of the base transmute, to be worth "one point" towards the 7 required. It would be a cheaper bet, to get two beads of the bounty next year, and hope for a point buy, and if there truly isn't one, see if you can trade up when the recipe is finalized. The "Trade up" might end up more expensive, as there will be no more speculation.

In full transparency, I am sitting on three AoTF and three CoGF, pseudo hoping the next Legendary TE will provide CoGF effect, and have a point buy, so I can make one more CoA, and equip 6 players with CoGF effects. I also read a thing where the AoTF would not be part of the recipe as it would be a "legendary transmute from the 2023 / 2025 / 2027 Ultra Rare TE's" though I don't have that post to link. It may have been just "incomplete" forgetting the 2015 AoTF as it seemed "off the cuff" during token development one year, may have even been in the Lords and Ladies section, my memory isn't the clearest.
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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #4

macxdmg wrote: For reference, the Charm of Avarice had two recipes, one that required a token that was a decade out of print, and one with a "point system" where older tokens were worth more points. This "point buy" system also allowed the Amulet you seek, which was not part of the base transmute, to be worth "one point" towards the 7 required. It would be a cheaper bet, to get two beads of the bounty next year, and hope for a point buy, and if there truly isn't one, see if you can trade up when the recipe is finalized. The "Trade up" might end up more expensive, as there will be no more speculation.

In full transparency, I am sitting on three AoTF and three CoGF, pseudo hoping the next Legendary TE will provide CoGF effect, and have a point buy, so I can make one more CoA, and equip 6 players with CoGF effects. I also read a thing where the AoTF would not be part of the recipe as it would be a "legendary transmute from the 2023 / 2025 / 2027 Ultra Rare TE's" though I don't have that post to link. It may have been just "incomplete" forgetting the 2015 AoTF as it seemed "off the cuff" during token development one year, may have even been in the Lords and Ladies section, my memory isn't the clearest.


I would also add that if you aren't using a CoA currently then you do still benefit from 4 additional treasures by using the AoTF. Getting some value out of it one way or another. I have one that I use for my girlfriend when we can't borrow a CoA.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #5

macxdmg wrote: For reference, the Charm of Avarice had two recipes, one that required a token that was a decade out of print, and one with a "point system" where older tokens were worth more points. This "point buy" system also allowed the Amulet you seek, which was not part of the base transmute, to be worth "one point" towards the 7 required. It would be a cheaper bet, to get two beads of the bounty next year, and hope for a point buy, and if there truly isn't one, see if you can trade up when the recipe is finalized. The "Trade up" might end up more expensive, as there will be no more speculation.

In full transparency, I am sitting on three AoTF and three CoGF, pseudo hoping the next Legendary TE will provide CoGF effect, and have a point buy, so I can make one more CoA, and equip 6 players with CoGF effects. I also read a thing where the AoTF would not be part of the recipe as it would be a "legendary transmute from the 2023 / 2025 / 2027 Ultra Rare TE's" though I don't have that post to link. It may have been just "incomplete" forgetting the 2015 AoTF as it seemed "off the cuff" during token development one year, may have even been in the Lords and Ladies section, my memory isn't the clearest.


I also had the feeling that was Jeff writing off the cuff, not remembering in the moment the earlier plan including the AoTF. He didn't mention it again in the development process. It will be interesting to see how the transmute works out. I do hope it includes the AoTF since many people bought and/or held onto them based on Jeff's initial plan.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #6

The AoTF was a 2015 token. By 2026, it will be 11 years old, and 10 years past when players can obtain, other than the secondary market. I would be beyond shocked, if Jeff were to create a new token with only one recipe requiring an 11 year old token. I would expect one of 2 things. Either a reprint of the AoTF, or a 2nd recipe that can be made with available tokens (within the last 2 years). The only exceptions would be the Ro7P and Skull of Cavadar. In both of those cases, the plan for the final token was known when the first piece came out and was repeated all 7 years.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #7

Cranston wrote: The AoTF was a 2015 token. By 2026, it will be 11 years old, and 10 years past when players can obtain, other than the secondary market. I would be beyond shocked, if Jeff were to create a new token with only one recipe requiring an 11 year old token. I would expect one of 2 things. Either a reprint of the AoTF, or a 2nd recipe that can be made with available tokens (within the last 2 years). The only exceptions would be the Ro7P and Skull of Cavadar. In both of those cases, the plan for the final token was known when the first piece came out and was repeated all 7 years.


I don't think the Ro7P (and maybe the Skull) are really accurate to say that the plan was known when the first piece came out (unless you mean Jeff knew). No one knew about the Ro7P segment 1 when they ordered tokens so it was a surprise to get them. For those first folks to pre-order. We also didn't know for some time that we would be able to combine them into a Completed Rod as I recall that came later, though I could be very wrong about that part. Not that your argument is incorrect or that I disagree with it, just not current the using those two as exception is quite accurate.
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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #8

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Cranston wrote: The AoTF was a 2015 token. By 2026, it will be 11 years old, and 10 years past when players can obtain, other than the secondary market. I would be beyond shocked, if Jeff were to create a new token with only one recipe requiring an 11 year old token. I would expect one of 2 things. Either a reprint of the AoTF, or a 2nd recipe that can be made with available tokens (within the last 2 years). The only exceptions would be the Ro7P and Skull of Cavadar. In both of those cases, the plan for the final token was known when the first piece came out and was repeated all 7 years.


I don't think the Ro7P (and maybe the Skull) are really accurate to say that the plan was known when the first piece came out (unless you mean Jeff knew). No one knew about the Ro7P segment 1 when they ordered tokens so it was a surprise to get them. For those first folks to pre-order. We also didn't know for some time that we would be able to combine them into a Completed Rod as I recall that came later, though I could be very wrong about that part. Not that your argument is incorrect or that I disagree with it, just not current the using those two as exception is quite accurate.

I know for sure that the Skull plan was out when the first Teeth came out. It may be possible that the Rod was not highlighted until the 2nd year, but the Rod Piece from the first year was available. Surprisingly, the 2nd Piece was the one in short supply.

In any case, those and 4C (monster bit) tokens are the only ones with single recipes using tokens not available from TD, that i am aware of.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #9

jedibcg wrote:

Cranston wrote: The AoTF was a 2015 token. By 2026, it will be 11 years old, and 10 years past when players can obtain, other than the secondary market. I would be beyond shocked, if Jeff were to create a new token with only one recipe requiring an 11 year old token. I would expect one of 2 things. Either a reprint of the AoTF, or a 2nd recipe that can be made with available tokens (within the last 2 years). The only exceptions would be the Ro7P and Skull of Cavadar. In both of those cases, the plan for the final token was known when the first piece came out and was repeated all 7 years.


I don't think the Ro7P (and maybe the Skull) are really accurate to say that the plan was known when the first piece came out (unless you mean Jeff knew). No one knew about the Ro7P segment 1 when they ordered tokens so it was a surprise to get them. For those first folks to pre-order. We also didn't know for some time that we would be able to combine them into a Completed Rod as I recall that came later, though I could be very wrong about that part. Not that your argument is incorrect or that I disagree with it, just not current the using those two as exception is quite accurate.


The AoTF was still orderable as a PYP when Jeff announced the transmute plan, so it is similar to the Skull in that respect. Regarding an AoTF reprint, Jeff said clearly the AoTF would never be reprinted.

Also, there have been numerous multi-year recipes that included out of print tokens, including the current Arcanum Ring and Shirt tokens which will lead to transmutes.

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Amulet of Treasure Finding Transmute Plan Question 2 months 2 weeks ago #10

I am a long time player, volunteer and collector, but not to the SkullCon level.
I hope this doesn't mean all the beads of 2023 and whatevers of 2025 all get sponged up by big collectors leaving those of us, though loyal and dedicated, but not big contributors left off of the extra TE's.
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raptorov wrote: I am a long time player, volunteer and collector, but not to the SkullCon level.
I hope this doesn't mean all the beads of 2023 and whatevers of 2025 all get sponged up by big collectors leaving those of us, though loyal and dedicated, but not big contributors left off of the extra TE's.


Everyone can order tokens from True Dungeon and pick the TE URs (or different PYPs). It might be wise to order early, in case they sell out like they almost did with Shirts of the Nimble.

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raptorov wrote: I am a long time player, volunteer and collector, but not to the SkullCon level.
I hope this doesn't mean all the beads of 2023 and whatevers of 2025 all get sponged up by big collectors leaving those of us, though loyal and dedicated, but not big contributors left off of the extra TE's.


Everyone can order tokens from True Dungeon and pick the TE URs (or different PYPs). It might be wise to order early, in case they sell out like they almost did with Shirts of the Nimble.


I imagine for something like this they will order extra and most of what goes out will come back in. Worste case they will do IOU cards until the first round of trasnmites come back around.
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