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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #25

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An odd thing in my pulls. A 10X 2020 Treasure Chip was included. Wierd. Now to figure out how to redeem it...
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #26

Harlax wrote: An odd thing in my pulls. A 10X 2020 Treasure Chip was included. Wierd. Now to figure out how to redeem it...

I also pulled a 10x treasure token. I was wondering if it was a sorting error or if we're going to start seeing them show up regularly in treasure boxes.

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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #27

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Brokkr wrote:

Harlax wrote: An odd thing in my pulls. A 10X 2020 Treasure Chip was included. Wierd. Now to figure out how to redeem it...

I also pulled a 10x treasure token. I was wondering if it was a sorting error or if we're going to start seeing them show up regularly in treasure boxes.


At first glance, I thought it was orange! No such luck.

My pulls were skewed toward rares. And a lot of monster bits. Heavily skewed distribution. 25 bits, but only two complete sets. No URs or above :(

No idea how to record that treasure chip in the doc.
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #28

Harlax wrote: No idea how to record that treasure chip in the doc.

I would say you don't. Likely you are either going to send it back for 10 pulls or 1 replacement pull. So you would record either the 10 or the 1.
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #29

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jedibcg wrote:

Harlax wrote: No idea how to record that treasure chip in the doc.

I would say you don't. Likely you are either going to send it back for 10 pulls or 1 replacement pull. So you would record either the 10 or the 1.


Well clearly that yellow was supposed to be orange. ;)
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #30

Harlax wrote:

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Harlax wrote: No idea how to record that treasure chip in the doc.

I would say you don't. Likely you are either going to send it back for 10 pulls or 1 replacement pull. So you would record either the 10 or the 1.


Well clearly that yellow was supposed to be orange. ;)


It still could be. It could even theoretically be 10 oranges.

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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #31

jedibcg wrote: Tracking ghosts, but not individual ghosts if that is what you are tracking. If someone pulls a Reaver or a Horror I will add a column for those. Since I didn't (and don't yet know) they were/are in the mix there is currently not a column for them.


I can confirm Reavers are in the mix. If you add a column, move one of my URs to the new column.

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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #32

Added a column for FoP: Reavers.
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #33

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My usual bad luck with treasure draws continues. 16 bits (incuding 8 of one of them and zero of another), 16 rares (including two ghosts), and 10 uncommons. No GP.
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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #34

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I continue to be above average in monster pulls but had a lot of decent pulls, 10 MB,potion of healing, 900 go I was surprised I got 3 potions of deaths door.

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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #35

I think the mix will be interesting this year, as it's the first year with Ultra Condensed packs.

WHAT FOLLOWS IS ALL SPECULATION:

In years past, I feel there were a lot of UCs and Rare that went out in token 10 packs and Condensed packs, and were picked over, keeping the "good" tokens (e.g. +2 Cloak of Resistance, Potion Death Door, etc.), and sending back the "bad" tokens (e.g. random +5 AC armor, non-damage scrolls, non healing potions) and GP to be transmuted.

My guess is the treasure mix includes these recycled current year UC and R tokens. In part this guess is based on the fact that from time to time TBTP have asked transmuters to indicate if their transmutes contain only current year tokens.

With a large portion of presales this year being ultra condensed, I wonder if the UC/R mix of the treasure generators will be closer to a random distribution across all of them.

If that's true, and my guess is right, you'd see less GP in treasure, but more "good" tokens that are playable in optimized red builds and premier consumables.

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2020-2021 Google Doc Treasure Sheet Thingy-cause I can't remember what I call it 2 months 1 week ago #36

Matthew Hayward wrote: I think the mix will be interesting this year, as it's the first year with Ultra Condensed packs.

WHAT FOLLOWS IS ALL SPECULATION:

In years past, I feel there were a lot of UCs and Rare that went out in token 10 packs and Condensed packs, and were picked over, keeping the "good" tokens (e.g. +2 Cloak of Resistance, Potion Death Door, etc.), and sending back the "bad" tokens (e.g. random +5 AC armor, non-damage scrolls, non healing potions) and GP to be transmuted.

My guess is the treasure mix includes these recycled current year UC and R tokens. In part this guess is based on the fact that from time to time TBTP have asked transmuters to indicate if their transmutes contain only current year tokens.

With a large portion of presales this year being ultra condensed, I wonder if the UC/R mix of the treasure generators will be closer to a random distribution across all of them.

If that's true, and my guess is right, you'd see less GP in treasure, but more "good" tokens that are playable in optimized red builds and premier consumables.


I think the transmutes are used to supplement the treasure not make it, but I think you are basically correct in the regard that the mix of Rares and uncommons might be a better distribution of the rares in the set going on the assumption that they are equal numbers of standard of the standard rares and uncommons (equal with others of its rarity).
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