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TOPIC: Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus?

Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #1

I'm wondering if there are any other Relic tokens in the game that show up in Best in Slot Legendary character builds? I know spellcasters run Relsa's Ring of Supreme Focus and the Ring of Greater Focus but am wondering if any other instances like this exist in game?

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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #2

Legendary helm can’t be used by Barbarian, and the shield can’t be used by Cleric. So the relic versions of those are BIS for those classes.

Relic AC ring and Relic cloak can both be used alongside with their legendaries so perhaps those in very specific builds.
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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #3

Charm of Awakened Synergy is technically a relic and as long as most of the party equips it, I believe it is considered BIS.

As far as Ring of Greater Focus, I suppose in the right build it might be BIS, but Relsa's Ring and Ring of Spell Storing are the two best rings for spell damage or healing. Ring of Greater Focus is only 3rd and if you're going to run Hand of Glory, you might as well go with the cheaper version of more damage with the Blessed Tempest Gloves. Now, with the Charm of Glory you might be looking at adding it back into the mix, but with all the other spell damage bonuses I'm getting, I'm happy enough to go with SRoEC.

Orion's Belt is also a relic. I wouldn't consider it BIS for most builds, but it can be useful depending on the type of build you're going for.

And of course, the helm and shield were already mentioned.

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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #4

The Relic Bead is an easy choice, unless you know going into a run that you'll need one of the benefits from the other beads.

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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #5

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Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes
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jedibcg wrote: Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes


How would one equip both Aron's and Starhide?
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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #7

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jedibcg wrote: Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes


How would one equip both Aron's and Starhide?


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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 1 day ago #8

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Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes


How would one equip both Aron's and Starhide?


Charm of Brooching?


Those are torso items, not back items, so I don't think there is a way to equip both. It would be like wearing two sets of armor.

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Mike Steele wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes


How would one equip both Aron's and Starhide?


Charm of Brooching?

You are correct. Or you are lazlo and equip both.
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Dave wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

jedibcg wrote: Define BIS? What happens when there are multiple slots, would the 3rd best in a 3 or more slotted count? Are slots taken by TE’s.

My candidates that haven’t been mentioned are Icecrag and Dracolich Claw (certain builds).

Honorable mentions
Orion’s Belt (not yet there but could eventually be there)
Relic AC Ring (if you are building to max out AC)
Relic Destiny Cloak (with the legendary to max out saves) OR starhide (with legendary) if you want to max out dex and AC for certain classes


How would one equip both Aron's and Starhide?


Charm of Brooching?


Those are torso items, not back items, so I don't think there is a way to equip both. It would be like wearing two sets of armor.


Correct, they take up the armor slot

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Relic tokens that are BIS other than Ring of Greater Focus? 2 weeks 23 hours ago #11

The +3 throwing hammer is often best in slot for ranged 1 hand weapon since the +5 has a higher dex requirement. I have a number of builds that get to 18 dex but not 20 depending on the class.

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Fred K wrote: The +3 throwing hammer is often best in slot for ranged 1 hand weapon since the +5 has a higher dex requirement. I have a number of builds that get to 18 dex but not 20 depending on the class.

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