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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #25

The slanted sides would make it easier to remove the coins in any quantity, would it not? Given that these are usually stationed at the teller's counters at a bank, that sounds like a desirable attribute.

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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #26

Kenban wrote: I have been thinking about the slanted sides, I suspect they are done like this to make it so coins do not fall over as easily if a section is not full.


My guess is the coin trays have a very different use case from Druegar’s. I’ve seen people use things like that as a cash drawer, so the slants make it easier to grab a coin or two to make change. And, it facilitates counting a cash drawer quickly at the end of a shift, when you don’t expect every grouping to be filled. As you say, they don’t fall over as easily when tipped.

I think Druegar’s main goal is to expedite transmutes. He wants to make sure that an Aragonite baggie actually has 25 tokens in it. If so, they’ll be dumped in a bucket.

In that context, I don’t see any utility to slanted sides, and would expect they’d be optional. But I’m not the ultimate user.

Another design I was considering was just a straight channel, 25 tokens long. Then the floor of the channel was raised 1/4 inch (or something) in two spots, starting five tokens from each end and five tokens wide, so that the stack sort of rippled. 5 low, 5 high, etc. We have three dimensions to work with, so the offset can be vertical.

Seen from the side, it would look kind of like “oOoOo”

And, nothing says the channels need to be rounded and form-fitting, does it? I’m sure it would work just as well and use less plastic if the channels were rectangular.
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #27

OHHH I forgot to mention - we’re assuming all tokens have standard dimensions. I have empirical proof that assumption is invalid.

When my onyx order arrived, I noticed that one of the 20-packs was noticeably taller than the others, by about a quarter, maybe a half a token. Regardless of what you do, I think you’re going to want to leave some wiggle-room. But not too much.
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #28

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Brad Mortensen wrote: When my onyx order arrived, I noticed that one of the 20-packs was noticeably taller than the others

Before or after they were taken out of the shrink-wrapping?
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #29

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Brad Mortensen wrote: When my onyx order arrived, I noticed that one of the 20-packs was noticeably taller than the others

Before or after they were taken out of the shrink-wrapping?


After

The tall one was the sleeve of URs. Maybe that had something to do with it.
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #31

Most chips I have are uniform. There are a few that are noticeably thicker though.

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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #32

edwin wrote: Most chips I have are uniform. There are a few that are noticeably thicker though.


Yeah, it’s not the sort of thing the majority are likely to notice - unless they’re using a rack that was meticulously crafted to hold a number of tokens snuggly.
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #33

I have noticed that if tokens are stacked label-to-label they are slightly thicker. I would bet that off-center labels affect the thickness too.
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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #34

Not to derail the conversation, but I like the token container that Broken Token uses for its Splendid Cities game pieces holder.

They're small and modular. You could make each section hold say 5 or 10 tokens.

Here's the image (hopefully it will come through) :

www.thebrokentoken.com/images/products/ORG056_07.jpg?resizeid=7&resizeh=1200&resizew=1200

The whole game holder kit:

www.thebrokentoken.com/browse-by-game/207 [img alt=Token Holder]

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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #35

Mike Leitz wrote: Not to derail the conversation, but I like the token container that Broken Token uses for its Splendid Cities game pieces holder.

They're small and modular. You could make each section hold say 5 or 10 tokens.

Here's the image (hopefully it will come through) :

www.thebrokentoken.com/images/products/ORG056_07.jpg?resizeid=7&resizeh=1200&resizew=1200

The whole game holder kit:

www.thebrokentoken.com/browse-by-game/207 [/quote] Splendor tokens are a couple mms larger than TD chips, though, aren't they? I couldn't [i]quite[/i] make a standard poker chip rack work as a Splendor box replacement.[img alt=Token Holder]


Splendor tokens are a couple mms larger than TD chips, though, aren't they? I couldn't quite make a standard poker chip rack work as a Splendor box replacement.

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Self-Counting Poker Chip (token) Tray? 7 months 2 weeks ago #36

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Mongo wrote: Are you going to make the .stl available? I have a few 3D printers I can print it on...


I was not expecting this kind of response when I posted the picture. Public availability of the stl is not a big deal, but I would prefer to get some feedback or have a chance to print it myself to see what kind of improvements should be made to it. I am pretty sure I have your email address so I sent you a copy of the STL.

Druegar wrote: One thing I'm really hoping for with this tray is precision. If the tokens don't fit perfectly* it significantly diminishes the tray's usefulness. I need to have high confidence the tokens are being slotted (counted) correctly.


For something like this 3D printing makes it pretty easy to iterate on the design and make it perfect, although I do expect the first revision to basically count correctly at least.

I have been thinking about the slanted sides, I suspect they are done like this to make it so coins do not fall over as easily if a section is not full.


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