TOPIC: Dansco vs Lighthouse (Token Sheet Binders/Holders)

Matt wrote: Is there something out there that is shoulder strap ready? I play ranger/monk and the thought of carrying a binder at all times is not appealing. Like something that can be carried handsfree as i check my bag in AG before the run.

I got this binder shortly before TDC and used it there. It has a shoulder strap built in. Overall I really liked it. But I do think I put too many sheets in it (I think it is around 20 of the sheets that Kirk sells). There were a couple times I unzipped it and found that the rings had opened and I had to slide the sheets back on the rings.

I use this for my secondary builds. Not because it's cost effective, but because I think it looks cool. It has a good shoulder strap as well.

www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_18?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sorcerers+of+magic+kingdom+binder&sprefix=Sorcerers+of+magic%2Caps%2C293&crid=2U5WYKWNG4VJY

Dansco Book and the bag to carry it. in (link below)

I then put all my gear in a round clear rubber holder (from Menards) and put it in one of the side sleeves. The zipped pocket is for special use tokens, the open port is for my quick reference to my abilities, immunities, and saves, and the small pocket holds my melee and ranged tokens.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D7204NU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Incognito wrote: For Dansco, seems like 40 mm holds more tokens per page, but is a very tight fit. Some players prefer 41 mm or 42 mm because it is easier to get tokens out. Another option is American Silver Eagle size pages. Does that sound right?

For the record, ASE's are 40.6mm in diameter, so an ASE binder will indeed work fine.

Donald Rients wrote: Dansco Book and the bag to carry it. in (link below)

I then put all my gear in a round clear rubber holder (from Menards) and put it in one of the side sleeves. The zipped pocket is for special use tokens, the open port is for my quick reference to my abilities, immunities, and saves, and the small pocket holds my melee and ranged tokens.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D7204NU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So how much was each page of the Dansco Book? (Especially given that you have like 10+ books).

Incognito wrote:

Donald Rients wrote: Dansco Book and the bag to carry it. in (link below)

I then put all my gear in a round clear rubber holder (from Menards) and put it in one of the side sleeves. The zipped pocket is for special use tokens, the open port is for my quick reference to my abilities, immunities, and saves, and the small pocket holds my melee and ranged tokens.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01D7204NU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So how much was each page of the Dansco Book? (Especially given that you have like 10+ books).

I can't remember the individual page cost. It was quite a few years back when our team bought them. I know that each book with 8 pages and the cover was around $45ish. They are quite durable noting that we have used them for so long now and they are still holding together well. We do have twelve books, one for each character class. The bags shown are about half that price $25ish. Yes, it is an investment but makes things so much easier.

Looking at websites I see where the pages are on sale for less than $6 a sheet (not recommedning nay specific site,just what I noticed) . www.danscoalbumstore.com/dansco-pages-blank-pages-c-100_129.html

I have purchased Dansco silver eagle binders with 3 to 4 pages included on Amazon. Price I've paid has ranged from $26 to $32.

Descriptions aren't always clear. Be sure to verify how many pages are included

So if you buy from the Dansco Album Store, a 1.25" Binder costs $10.09 and will hold 7-8 pages. Depending on your preference you can choose from 40 mm, 41 mm, 42 mm, and Silver Dollar pages. They each hold 9 tokens per page and are $5.75 each.

So with 8 pages that is 72 tokens for:

$10.09 + 8 x $5.75 = $56.09

If you buy it from Wizard Coin Supply:

$9.09 + 8 x $5.09 = $49.81

You can also optionally buy a slipcase for $9.49, but that seems more useful for actual coins where it helps with toning and discoloration (which is not as applicable to tokens).

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With Lighthouse Optima, each page holds 15 tokens and it is $11.95 for a pack of 5 pages.

The Lighthouse Optima F binder holds 30 sheets for $45.95 (includes slipcase)
The Lighthouse Optima G binder holds 60 sheets for $59.95 (includes slipcase)

On Wizard Coin Supply, the pages only cost $10.99 each. The binders it features are:

Lighthouse Optima F 4-Ring Binder and Slipcase holds 50 pages for $39.09
Lighthouse Optima Classic Binder and Slipcase holds 60 pages for $37.39
Lighthouse Optima G 4-Ring Binder and Slipcase holds 80 pages for $50.99
Lighthouse Optima Giant Classic Binder and Slipcase holds 80 pages for $42.49

If we go with something simpler (say cheapest binder and 5 pages):

$45.95 + $11.95 = $57.90 holds 75 tokens and includes a slipcase

On Wizard Coin Supply this is:

$37.39 + $10.99 = $48.38

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Based on this initial estimate, it looks like if you are going for 72 tokens, the prices for Dansco and Lighthouse are roughly the same.

However, Lighthouse comes with a slipcase (at this price) and seems to have greater capacity for holding additional pages.

The main advantage to Dansco seems to be the nicer look of the actual pages.

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If you want to double the capacity then with Dansco you have to buy an identical album and pages. So $56.09 x 2 = $112.18 or $49.81 x 2 = $99.62 with Wizard Coin Supply:

With Lighthouse, the binder presumably still has capacity so all you need to do is buy an additional 5-pack of sheets so: $57.90 + $11.95 = $69.85 or $48.38 + $10.99 = $59.37 with Wizard Coin Supply.

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Am I missing any other important considerations or details?

For the record my 5-pack of Lighthouse Optima sheets are only $9.50 after forum discount, or even cheaper if you have customer rewards built up. I can also deliver at conventions to save shipping, or they ship free with $150+ orders.

I'm looking into pricing on the Optima Binders as well.

Personally, I've found Dansco binders to be excellent. Also the brown leather look, has a wizards spell book kinda look and feel and doesn't break immersion when carrying it around in the dungeon.