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TOPIC: Greater Alchemist's pouch question

Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #1

So, if you heal 1pt extra with any orally consumed potion, I'm assuming 1pt heal potions heal 2 points each.

If that is so, wouldn't trading up your 11 1pt heals for a 10 point distilled healing potion be a bad deal. 10 pts of healing vs 22?

Am I missing something here?

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #2

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #3

flyingdingle wrote: if you heal 1pt extra with any orally consumed potion, I'm assuming 1pt heal potions heal 2 points each.

you assume correctly

flyingdingle wrote: wouldn't trading up your 11 1pt heals for a 10 point distilled healing potion be a bad deal.

It depends.
If all you're comparing is raw healing potential, then yes, drinking 10 separate potions will heal you more.

But all that potential comes at a price. As bpsymington mentioned, it will take you 10 rounds to drink them. ( You can't drink them as a Free Action with either a Pouch of Tulz or Belt of Retrieval .) That's 10 rounds you could have spent attacking, casting spells, or something likely more useful. Obviously, out of (or after) combat when rounds are not counted, this is less of an issue.

In addition, consider the weight and volume of 1 token vs. 10 tokens. For those with lots of consumables already, the ability to reduce some of that weight by an order of magnitude is very appealing.

Like all transmuted tokens, this was created as a way for those who have extra--often unused--tokens to convert them into something useful. Nobody is going to force you to convert them. If you feel it's worth your while to use multiple 1-point heals, go for it. If you'd rather distill them, you have that option. If you want to distill some and keep others an one-pointers, you can do that too.
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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #4

Imagine that you die in a NM run. Someone uses a PoDD to rez you. You are now at 1 HP and you have an action to use. That 10 point heal, +1 with the pouch, looks pretty nice right about now.

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #5

They should clarify whether the GAP gives an extra HP when the owner is brought back to life with a Mystic Mushroom or a PoDD. I assume it doesn't, but it could be argued that the potion or mushroom did heal HP's by bringing them to 1 HP.

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #6

Ok, thanks. All above is pretty much what I figured. I wanted to make sure I interpreted it correctly

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #7

Beertram wrote: They should clarify whether the GAP gives an extra HP when the owner is brought back to life with a Mystic Mushroom or a PoDD. I assume it doesn't, but it could be argued that the potion or mushroom did heal HP's by bringing them to 1 HP.


To some extent, it is somewhat of a moot point. If you have 1 or 2 health, you still die to anything that looks at you. But clarification would be nice

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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #8

What if you're ALSO wearing Girdle of Wealful Health?

I assume those 1 pt heals become 3 pt? You could wait until after combat is over and turn in a stack of Spotted Red Mushrooms to get really nice healing value.
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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #9

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Jeff321 wrote: What if you're ALSO wearing Girdle of Wealful Health?

I assume those 1 pt heals become 3 pt? You could wait until after combat is over and turn in a stack of Spotted Red Mushrooms to get really nice healing value.


tokendb.com/token/girdle-of-wealful-health/

The bonus healing from this item stacks with Greater Alchemist Pouch
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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #10

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I don't know this to be true but I would think the Pouch does not work with PoDD just because of the wording.

The Pouch as +1 to anything that eaten or drank that heals one. The PoDD does not heal. It restores you to 1HP. Again I could be wrong but it sounds like one is about healing and the other is a restore.

PoDD
Restores a dead character to life. The character is resurrected with only 1 HP. The resurrected character will not gain back any expended spells or limited use special abilities. This potion must be used in the room where the death occurred.
This potion has no effect when consumed by a living character.
Note: This potion must be administered by another (living) character. Nothing can bypass this restriction.

GAP
All potions carried by the character are protected from damage. In addition, whenever the owner eats or drinks an item that heals HP, 1 additional HP is restored.
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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #11

Rules lawyer says Jedibc is correct, barring an exception. But the rules seem clear.
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Re: Greater Alchemist's pouch question 4 years 9 months ago #12

jedibcg wrote: tokendb.com/token/girdle-of-wealful-health/
The bonus healing from this item stacks with Greater Alchemist Pouch

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