TOPIC: Feedback on Cleric Tokens

Incognito wrote:

Xavon wrote: No love for the Greater Holy Symbol? It's slotless, so you don't have to give anything up.

Holy Symbols are underwhelming because they are dependent on Turning, which only helps against the undead. Yes, undead are a fairly common occurrence but there are occasionally years when it's not helpful at all. Just like with the Druid's Talk with Animals ability (even more narrow), and the Ranger's favored enemy which is also undead-specific.

But it is slotless, so in the money-is-no-object scenario you might as well have one. And in last year's Draco-Lich dungeon it was usable in every combat, but only in the final room of Giant's Travail.

So I agree that last year's "must have" is probably this year's "meh". But we don't really have enough info to know for sure. I'm sure it won't help at all against werewolves or golems.

On the other hand, it just fell out of PYP status so it won't be getting any cheaper, unless it's reprinted of course.

Brad Mortensen wrote: So I agree that last year's "must have" is probably this year's "meh". But we don't really have enough info to know for sure. I'm sure it won't help at all against werewolves or golems.

Vampiric-werewolf hybrids! (aka Abominations in some genres).

Undead bone golems!

Incognito wrote:

Brad Mortensen wrote: So I agree that last year's "must have" is probably this year's "meh". But we don't really have enough info to know for sure. I'm sure it won't help at all against werewolves or golems.

Vampiric-werewolf hybrids! (aka Abominations in some genres).

Undead bone golems!

I think I saw a horrible movie with vampiric-werewolf hybrids, lol. Undead bone golem? That I can get behind....very far behind.

Xavon wrote: No love for the Greater Holy Symbol? It's slotless, so you don't have to give anything up.

I love my greater holy symbol but it wouldn't be the first thing I went after if I was building a cleric. All of the undead bosses recently ate a massive turn and searing light from me- the most damage a cleric can deliver.

I can post my full build if you want- it has all the tricks but it is a pretty expensive and expansive build that took a few years to get.

EN 429 wrote:

Xavon wrote: No love for the Greater Holy Symbol? It's slotless, so you don't have to give anything up.

I love my greater holy symbol but it wouldn't be the first thing I went after if I was building a cleric. All of the undead bosses recently ate a massive turn and searing light from me- the most damage a cleric can deliver.

I can post my full build if you want- it has all the tricks but it is a pretty expensive and expansive build that took a few years to get.

Sure, that would be great. I have most of the "common build" items (e.g. Greater Cloak, Pouch, Topaz Trilliant, Charms), as well as several items that are likely solid choices for Cleric (e.g. Templar set). I have a Charm of Heroism, so I have flexibility in the other slots.

Weapon selection seems really limited... The best melee weapon choices seem to be Gearon's Mace, Scepter of Might, and (maybe?) Hammer of Thunderbolts or Morningstar of Smiting. On the ranged side it's even more limited--Sling of Impact or Mighty Sling. Its a shame that almost all of those are long out of print...

Last years throwing hammers weren't bad. You need one per round, but you should be able to get a half-dozen for a fraction of the cost of a UR, and ranged is probably a fallback position anyway.

Good to hear my mace is still seeing some action!

Last year I used my Greater Holy Symbol so often I decided to wear it this year - if there aren't any undead about I'll be sad, but at least everyone should be able to figure out that I'm the cleric...

Fantastic!!!
I used mine a lot as well - it was a real blast!

That is awesome!

ooooo, meeesa coming down with some serious holy symbol envy!

Really fantastic Brad. How come that isn't in your shop.