TOPIC: Gen Con's letter to the IN governor re SB101

Donald Rients: Will you be okay with this law being used against you? As a restaurant manager, is it okay for me to refuse service to you due to my "sincerely held beliefs" that your religious practices are offensive?

Pence has signed the bill .

Utterly unsurprising.

Salesforce a big tech company in Indy has said they will reduce funding in the state. Good for them.

Brad Mortensen wrote:

jedibcg wrote: She put herself in the situation by opening a store that services the public. If she doesn't want to treat everyone the same she shouldn't have opened a store that serves the public knowing she have serve that public in ways she might not like. Sorry I have no sympathy for her.

And that's why I pointed out she opened the store DECADES before gay marriage was an issue.
But now you're suggesting a religious test, saying that people of certain faiths should be prohibited from opening certain businesses. And that's a violation of equal employment opportunity rights.

If you cannot open a store an service all people the same then yes you should not be opening a store. I don't care of that is 'religious' or bigoted reasons.

Edit: to let some claim that it is okay to discrimination for religious reason and not for other reasons would be to give them a privilege that others don't have. So I say no discrimination regardless of the reason.

There are two kinds of people that I hate. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

Ha Ha Ha. The only things I hate are toilets that don't flush correctly and beheaders.


Seriously, it depresses me that the republican party can't get past being at least neutral regarding these relatively insignificant social issues like gay rights that end up turning too many voters against them.

Meanwhile the country and indeed the world fall deeper and deeper into irretrievable chaos as a result of repeated obvious mistakes, seeming ineptitudes, and the overall disastrous policy choices of - naive? - pie in the sky? - dishonest? liberal democrats who find themselves with way too much power, like Obama, Pelosi and Reed.

Disbeeleaf wrote: Ha Ha Ha. The only things I hate are toilets that don't flush correctly and beheaders.


Seriously, it depresses me that the republican party can't get past being at least neutral regarding these relatively insignificant social issues like gay rights that end up turning too many voters against them.

Meanwhile the country and indeed the world fall deeper and deeper into irretrievable chaos as a result of repeated obvious mistakes, seeming ineptitudes, and the overall disastrous policy choices of - naive? - pie in the sky? - dishonest? liberal democrats who find themselves with way too much power, like Obama, Pelosi and Reed.

When I lived in Indiana I had the opportunity to vote for both Richard Lugar and Lee Hamilton. Not that I always agreed with them, but I always respected them. Two giants in their respective parties whose like will not be seen again for some time in our hyper polarized political discourse.

Losing a senate race in Indiana is quite a feat for a republican, but they managed it when they decided Lugar was not "pure" enough.
Ironically a lot of the credit/blame for the current situation goes to George McGovern. The commission he headed in the late 60s which reformed the Deomcratic Party nomination process to reduce the power of "party bosses." The unintended consequence is a primary process dominated by the most extreme portions of each party.

Disbeeleaf is so off base it's not worth responding.

How typical and small of Pence. Very disappointing and surprising. Hope the NFL makes a statement as strong as GenCon's.

Certainly GC couldn't move this year, but I would love it if it relocated next year if this right-to-discriminate law is still on the books.

balthasar wrote: There are two kinds of people that I hate. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

Especially if they have golden "keys" and enjoy eating their own skin.

bpsymington wrote: Disbeeleaf is so off base it's not worth responding.

How typical and small of Pence. Very disappointing and surprising. Hope the NFL makes a statement as strong as GenCon's.

Certainly GC couldn't move this year, but I would love it if it relocated next year if this right-to-discriminate law is still on the books.

The NFL and NCAA should weigh in and if you remember the extreme anti latino Arizona Bill of a few years ago, it was the NFL's threat to pull a Superbowl that turned the tide. Gencon is a good start but I do not think Pence is crazy enough to fight sports

bpsymington wrote: Disbeeleaf is so off base it's not worth responding.

How typical and small of Pence. Very disappointing and surprising. Hope the NFL makes a statement as strong as GenCon's.

Certainly GC couldn't move this year, but I would love it if it relocated next year if this right-to-discriminate law is still on the books.

+1 to ALL of that

add The NCAA because Indy is where the final four is held ..i would like them to make a stand too