TOPIC: 2027 Treasure Token Notes Round 7 <= Final?

Thank you all for your continuing feedback. I appreciate your perspectives, and it is good to get the input of a variety of voices. I try my best to balance all your feedback and other concerns to craft these tokens for you. I updated the FAQ again with more info, so please check it out before asking a question here. Thanks for that!

Changes from last post:
-- We fixed the typo on the Homunculus tokens. Thanks!
-- We fixed the wrong power on the Bead of Hexed Boon.

I think we have a great set of 2027-2029 tokens here. I know they are a little different in some ways than in the past, but I think a little change here is a good thing.

Good image: truedungeon.com/files/Multi-Year-Graphicv4.jpg

Notes PDF: truedungeon.com/files/2027_Token_Notesv11.pdf

I don't understand why the Arcanum Hagstone is going to also require us to transmute the Bead of Hexed Boon. That seems much more expensive than the other Arcanum set pieces. Let's review those recipes:

Arcanum Shirt
4 URs
1 of each TG except Bar

Deathward Greaves
4 URs
1 of each TG except Bar

Ring of the Sacred Circle
5 1k reward tokens
1 of each TG except Bar

This new token is going to take:
3 URs
3 2k reward tokens
An unknown # of TGs

That seems out of whack for what you get, based on past recipes.

Pretty cool overall.

Bead of Hexed Boon
The bead adjustment seems a little off based on the current level of power vs the trade off.
Bead of Asgard is +4 to one score
Bead of Hexed Boon is +5 to one score and -2 saves

If this is the intended stat line, I would think going into eye slot with Lenses of Timestep as the first UR would make more sense but your still going from +5 -2 to +5 -6 so is +6 might be the correct value.

The UR path could also move to gloves for +5 damage -2 saves with gloves of Elder Horror, Focus +4, and +4 melee damage as another option. It would still be below the Gregor's Relic which is tied to 2 handers.

If you wanted to do a different stat line +4 to str, dex, con (pick 2) -2 saves seems at least different. It would basically be an improved stalker bead of skill with +2 stats -2 saves with flexibility.

If you didn't care about slot alignment at all, offhand has limited options and this could be an updated Orb of Might.

Transmute Path
The timing and tempo of transmuting the UR, than transmuting the Relic seems a little stressful. There was a lot of stress in Ring transmute this year and this transmute line means we will need to double transmute. If this is the intention, there needs to be a streamlined transmute path so it is one mailer instead of 2.

Slots
I do love the chaser concept and the patron path is awesome. I do +1 the fact that I don't want to feel the need to get an extra codex and grimoire and hagstones. If it is defined as a slot cool, if tokendb says they cant stack cool. We all carry enough tokens as is for in person runs.

If the bead is going to be part of the recipe for the Arcanum piece, then the recipe for it needs to be like just the 3 UR's or this is going to be the most expensive Arcanum piece ever to create, which I agree is going to cause another frenzy in TG's to create.

I also like the idea of moving the UR multi year out of the bead slot and into the gloves or eyes slot as well, one, to avoid it becoming just another Bead of Asgard but with a downside, and update the gloves/eyes slot for many builds, where things haven't really changed much in years. Updating those slots gives more builds interesting options, instead of crowding an already crowded bead slot for most people.

I will also add to consider not having the Bead as part of the recipe for the Arcanum Hagstone. First, if someone would like the Bead and want to make the Hagstone, then they have to buy 2 of each UR, which I think is too much. Second, a person will have to transmute the Bead, then follow up with a separate transmute for the Hagstone and they can't be done at the same time (unless in person).

Otherwise, I think the tokens are awesome!

jadziadax8 wrote: I don't understand why the Arcanum Hagstone is going to also require us to transmute the Bead of Hexed Boon. That seems much more expensive than the other Arcanum set pieces. Let's review those recipes:

Arcanum Shirt
4 URs
1 of each TG except Bar

Deathward Greaves
4 URs
1 of each TG except Bar

Ring of the Sacred Circle
5 1k reward tokens
1 of each TG except Bar

This new token is going to take:
3 URs
3 2k reward tokens
An unknown # of TGs

That seems out of whack for what you get, based on past recipes.

If the Hagstone was a Slotted Token I'd agree. However with it being Slotless I think it's fine.

Corey Pressler wrote: I will also add to consider not having the Bead as part of the recipe for the Arcanum Hagstone. First, if someone would like the Bead and want to make the Hagstone, then they have to buy 2 of each UR, which I think is too much. Second, a person will have to transmute the Bead, then follow up with a separate transmute for the Hagstone and they can't be done at the same time (unless in person).

Otherwise, I think the tokens are awesome!

I agree the bead should be removed from the hegstone recipe as well, mostly because it will be a easy to miss detail that will trip up most people that are not paying as much attention as us involved in token development are.