TOPIC: 2024 Transmute Recipes

No longer in Beta, here are the recipes we're going with.

Thank you for all your constructive and thoughtful feedback.

Thank you all for your excellent feedback on the recipes. The TD Community helped a lot -- especially at the beginning. I am sorry if some of the later changes you wanted to see were not adopted. Thank you for voicing your opinion.

There’s a recipe for a Tomb Treasure Chest, but tokendb does not have it listed. I’m guessing it to give extra treasure draws.

Will it give 40 draws?

The newly visible Tomb Treasure Chest can be turned in for 20 treasure pulls.

David Autzen wrote: There’s a recipe for a Tomb Treasure Chest, but tokendb does not have it listed. I’m guessing it to give extra treasure draws.

Will it give 40 draws?

I doubt it. I'm guessing 20. Pulls are probably still worth $3-4.

Jeff Martin wrote: The TD Community helped a lot -- especially at the beginning.

As someone who spent quite a lot of time trying to provide helpful feedback near the end of the process, which was largely declined without explanation, despite being very well reasoned, it is hard for me to see you saying the feedback was helpful "especially at the beginning" as very encouraging.

The message I'm getting here is this: what TDA wants is free proofreading. Actual constructive feedback on the other hand, is not desired. I'm afraid it's hard to be anything but discouraged.

Daniel White wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: The TD Community helped a lot -- especially at the beginning.

As someone who spent quite a lot of time trying to provide helpful feedback near the end of the process, which was largely declined without explanation, despite being very well reasoned, it is hard for me to see you saying the feedback was helpful "especially at the beginning" as very encouraging.

The message I'm getting here is this: what TDA wants is free proofreading. Actual constructive feedback on the other hand, is not desired. I'm afraid it's hard to be anything but discouraged.

I got this same feeling during 2024 Token Design. I'm not sure I even want to think about what is going to happen when and if class redesign happens. My ticket purchases and token sales will reflect my thoughts and feelings of this come 2024. That's the only way I know to make my voice heard and see if it resonates. If not, oh well I saved a bunch of money.

I appreciate the additional level of communication towards the end, I am sad to see a lot of the last round feedback wasn't taken into account.

I see some people are taking it hard, and I think a way we can avoid this as we go forward is for TDHQ to state what type of feedback they want in each round of design. Is it recipe costs, is it proof reading, etc. Also at the start, knowing the goal is a great thing to help the community give feedback, knowing the goal was to increase TG values allowed us to tailor feedback to that goal.

I guess to say this more concisely if we can have clear feedback parameters and design goals at each beta draft of what you'd like from us I think that would go a long to keep people from feeling ignored or like they wasted effort.

Thank you again for letting us comment this year, and for the additional communication towards the end. I hope to see more clear communication next year!

Jeff Martin wrote: Thank you all for your excellent feedback on the recipes. The TD Community helped a lot -- especially at the beginning. I am sorry if some of the later changes you wanted to see were not adopted. Thank you for voicing your opinion.

Thank you Jeff for including the community in the design process each year.

I'd still be interested in hearing why the "any UR" for Omni transmutes is limited to 2018 or more recent, if that is information you'd want to share.

Mike Steele wrote: I'd still be interested in hearing why the "any UR" for Omni transmutes is limited to 2018 or more recent, if that is information you'd want to share.

Didn't Jeff say somewhere that the intention was that these Omni tokens should cost more to transmute than the item they replace?
There are a few old URs that are super cheap. Sadly, I expect those are the exact URs some people were wanting a recipe to take 'any UR' for them to use. Maybe next time.

Mike Steele wrote: I'd still be interested in hearing why the "any UR" for Omni transmutes is limited to 2018 or more recent, if that is information you'd want to share.

Not saying anyone would but I believe that in 2018 is when UR started having a star edge. Before 2018 they had just the normal pattern and thus would be much easier to counterfeit. Just a thought of course.