TOPIC: Finalish Ultra Rare Images

I made some big changes here due to the Transmute changes. I changed the power of the Ioun Stone because of problems that it might create in a few ways. Sorry if you liked that one, but it will probably be problematic. I added a new Wrist slot item to give folks who love better saves a way to go.

Thanks for your incredible patience and help through this whole process. Your thoughts?

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Also posted message in transmutes,

On the boots, I believe most previous instances of negate 50% Miss Chance haven’t had the word “the” in front of the phrase.

Book of Useful Scrolls becoming an Instant Action is an enormous upgrade to that token.

I have the impression that you can take instant actions at any time, including in response to things the monster does (e.g. using absorb after you hear the damage total but before you take it)? If so this would allow some pretty cool healing interventions where you could save someone from lethal damage.


Bracelets of Luck seems very good at +3 to saves at UR;
Relic Bead of the Lucky traveler gives +2 to saves and free movement
Various UR Ioun Stones and Lucky Charm give +2 to saves
UR cloaks that only give saves give +3 to saves

I would rather this be a lower save bonus (like +1 or +2) and some other benefit tacked on.

A couple quick comments:

The Book finally feels valuable now!

Can the Ioun Stone change to Ranged from Melee...we started out this process with it in the Ranged category and established how Ranged needs another IS more than Melee...would love to see this change to Ranged. Plus melee get damage in the Eyes slot in this set.

The book does feel valuable, but please keep in mind that the current ruling is that there is no limit to the number of instant actions you can take in a round (but that is subject to change). If that ruling is changed, it could quickly turn this token back into a paperweight.

Acherin's ring is interesting, but I'm not sure it's really worthy of a Ring slot. I'd rather have a +6 saves ring than this I think. I could see it in bead or charm, or even Ioun Stone.

I liked the boots better with +1 saves, but I haven't seen the transmutes yet.

The book is still 1/game, I think instant action is fine, unless I'm missing something. It might even still need more.

Should it be lucky bracelets? Also, do we want 2 wrist items available for PYP?

Should the greaves have sonic damage?

Ioun Stone could probably be Missile or ranged rather than melee.

Why are wizards not on the Robe of skill?

I do think these are getting close, and apologies if my comments seem short or negative, that is not my intent.

These seem good.

Does Acherin's Ring of Negation need the restriction of not being usable in the final room? The finger slot is pretty valuable, so I think this would be fine with the restriction removed.

Bracelets of Luck and the transmutes would be better I think if they provided +4/6/8 to saves, as this will put them on the same level as the slot expanders available for the wrist slot. Commented on this in more detail on the transmutes thread.

Ioun Stone Kyanite Cube is fine, but since there are already two fairly recent +2 damage melee Ioun Stones I'm not sure that a third is needed at this time. I feel the same about Ranged damage which has had two Charms and an Ioun Stone recently which grant +2 damage, but if this IS is going to be a damage boost then I think Ranged would be a better fit for it than Melee as Ranged only has one IS with this effect at the moment.

I'm relived to see Lenses of Flawsight reduced to 2 melee damage which is still very strong. It's a shame to see the Rogue ability completely removed, but the melee damage was my main concern on this one.

David Harris wrote: A couple quick comments:

The Book finally feels valuable now!

Can the Ioun Stone change to Ranged from Melee...we started out this process with it in the Ranged category and established how Ranged needs another IS more than Melee...would love to see this change to Ranged. Plus melee get damage in the Eyes slot in this set.

Making it ranged would also benefit casters that are already over represented in this years UR tokens. It is fine as a melee token, and balances well against last years ranged items.

Edit: looking at it closer a lot of space was eaten up with cool utility tokens and reprints, and not a great year for rangers - maybe make it +3 damage but with missiles only?

Edit 2: +3 but for ammo only… make it combo with the sling

Dave wrote: The book does feel valuable, but please keep in mind that the current ruling is that there is no limit to the number of instant actions you can take in a round (but that is subject to change). If that ruling is changed, it could quickly turn this token back into a paperweight.

It is once per game though, so I think that limits you to 1 scroll.

balthasar wrote:

Dave wrote: The book does feel valuable, but please keep in mind that the current ruling is that there is no limit to the number of instant actions you can take in a round (but that is subject to change). If that ruling is changed, it could quickly turn this token back into a paperweight.

It is once per game though, so I think that limits you to 1 scroll.

It does and right now that's fine as is. I'm just trying to think ahead and if too many things get added as instant actions, they might revisit that rule, which would upset other current strategies.

Didn't want to jinx it but I always had a feeling we wouldn't end up with two RD tokens in the same year. Very glad to see the Cloak still there, and hopefully we can revisit Ring of Sacred Wrath for next time around

Book of Useful Scrolls seems very useful now, I like it!

I agree with others that Acherin's Ring of Negation feels underwhelming.

David Zych wrote: Didn't want to jinx it but I always had a feeling we wouldn't end up with two RD tokens in the same year. Very glad to see the Cloak still there, and hopefully we can revisit Ring of Sacred Wrath for next time around

Book of Useful Scrolls seems very useful now, I like it!

I agree with others that Acherin's Ring of Negation feels underwhelming.

I knew I thought something was missing!

I'm good with the cloak, as long as it stays as is, I'll be happy.

I'd love the charm of sacred wrath back though.