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TOPIC: 2023 Rare Beta Token Images

2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #1

Some Rare tokens have an augmented power for a one or two classes -- which makes most Rares usable by all, but preferred by a few. Thanks for your input.

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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #2

I like the addition of the shurikens.

Sun Dagger should be usable by All except Cleric (clerics and pointy things don’t mix)
Edit: just read the Ultra Rare thread - ignore this

Sun Blaster and Sun Cannon seem too similar - I’d like to see the Blaster be one-handed

Overall these look really good - some fun rare options
Last edit: by Cary Kelly. Reason: Read Ultra Rare thread explanation
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #3

Does the Sacred Shuriken deal all of it's damage as Sacred? (Unless otherwise typed)

Jeff Martin wrote: All damage is Sacred.

Acherin wrote: I also added VTD support for the most annoying token of 2024 the +2 Sun Scimitar.

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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #4

All damage is Sacred.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #5

Jeff Martin wrote: All damage is Sacred.


Truer words have never been spoken.

Jeff Martin wrote: All damage is Sacred.

Acherin wrote: I also added VTD support for the most annoying token of 2024 the +2 Sun Scimitar.

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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #6

Cary Kelly wrote: I like the addition of the shurikens.

Sun Dagger should be usable by All except Cleric (clerics and pointy things don’t mix)
Edit: just read the Ultra Rare thread - ignore this

Sun Blaster and Sun Cannon seem too similar - I’d like to see the Blaster be one-handed

Overall these look really good - some fun rare options


The Sun Dagger is not a bladed weapon...but magical fire. The Rares are two-handed so they match up somewhat with Bows and Crossbows...so no Shield. Besides...these babies back a punch!
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #7

Shuriken have only ever been Fighters, Monk, Rogue.

The main reason I keep trying to get the VTD apps to handle alchemicals is the ability to do massive damage to undead through Sacred/token text. While it might seem like being able to do that now with shuriken sounds like something I'd like, shuriken never go away, so there's no real cost to dealing essentially 2x damage other than the low to hit.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #8

Ian Lee wrote: Shuriken have only ever been Fighters, Monk, Rogue.

The main reason I keep trying to get the VTD apps to handle alchemicals is the ability to do massive damage to undead through Sacred/token text. While it might seem like being able to do that now with shuriken sounds like something I'd like, shuriken never go away, so there's no real cost to dealing essentially 2x damage other than the low to hit.


My bad. Those classes should be listed on the token.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #9

1. Bracelets of Farsight: After fixing the confusion around "what does ranged mean?" two years or back, I'm not sure what "missile" means for +1 to dmg/w Missile Attacks. Could this be changed to say either:
* +1 to damage with ranged attacks"
OR
* "+1 to damage with physical ranged weapons"

2. The various "Retrieval" items at rare (Belt, Gloves, Pants) and one at Uncommon (Hat of Minor Retrieval) all allow the user to drink any potion as a free action 1/game. Should Shirt of the Quick Sip be changed to:

a. Allow you to drink any potion 1/game
Or:
b. Allow you to drink a healing potion only 1/room
?

3. Sniper Leather Armor: Similar to the Bracelets of Farsight can this be changed to give +1 to hit to ranged, instead of to missile to avoid confusion.

4. Wind Runestone: Change to "+1 to hit with common and uncommon ranged weapons" ?

If this stays as it is boosting "missile weapons" - do Mystic Staffs count as "missile weapons" for the purposes of Wind Runestone?

5. 6 out of 8 rare weapons do not convey a +1 to hit.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #10

Wind runestone I think could affect rare missile weapons as well without being overpowered. Runestones seem to be very infrequently used at least in my experience.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #11

Ella’s Electric Earcuff is an example of spell bonus weirdness. Most spell damage is generic. Recent additions have a specific environmental aspect separate from the spell damage type. Hard enough to code, but impossible to deal with for DM’s at live events.
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2023 Rare Beta Token Images 2 years 8 months ago #12

+1 Berserker Carnage Axe has incredible art. Competing with Bead of Whispers for best in set IMO

Amulet of the Wild is better for Monks and Melee Rangers (assuming 2 hits) than Poly druids. Would +4 to Poly for druids be too good?

Farsight to me implies accuracy rather than damage. Sniping I think precision (damage). Maybe I'm weird in this, but I could see either the effects or the names being swapped.

I like Ella's, and it feels good to move up from Sonic Splendor.

Fancy hat seems good. I don't know how much we want to eliminate magical silence, but ok.

Lenses of Sixth sense. Extremely nit-picky point. I really like the suggestion of the head wrap/blind fighting type idea that was put forth earlier. I like Monks being associated with sixth sense, I just don't necessarily think goggles would be how you unlock it.

Nova Sun Pellet. Didn't we have issues between this effect and boost? Affects all monsters is a pretty strong power.

Please find a way to include a 3rd rare that transmutes to Alchemist's Ink.

Scroll Inertia Shield: I assume IS means Inertia Scroll? If so, perhaps, "no more than 1 Scroll IS per player per room?"

I like the look of these, and rare players will have a lot to work with.
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