TOPIC: This is it! Last Chance! Making Printing Plates Later Today!

Other than the Participation tokens, here are the "final unless you find an error" images for the 2022 tokens.

Can you be one of the cool kids -- and find an aforementioned error? Any other feedback about wording is welcome. Thanks so much everyone! I am a very lucky gamer!

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Wording on relic and legendary charm bracelets is inconsistent:

Relic: up to 3 additional charms
Legendary: may wear 4 additional

Dropping the “up to” on Relic would make the most sense and would no longer have to abbreviate additional

EDIT: Looks like UR charm bracelets use “up to” - previous printing did not use “up to”. Would drop it from the UR as well as Relic.


Goggles of the Deadshot:
URL spacing from token title - looks like there is additional padding above it compared to others. Likely a holdover from when these were Sniper Spectacles

Regarding the wording on the UR Charm Bracelets. It doesn't match the 2016 Charm Bracelets and I like the 2016 wording better: "May wear 2 additional Charms". And just saw the post about the Relic ones and I agree. Change to: "May wear 3 additional Charms"

Greater Charm Bracelets is worded differently than Luna's. note- Charm Bracelets has the same wording as the Relic. It's weird that it's not consistent across all three tokens.

Should Pirates Treasure Map have an apostrophe?

Sacred Light Charm - Not consistent with other healing bonuses. Shouldn't have "HP" in the text

Lenses of Foresight - don't need the parentheses around "for rest of combat"

Crown of Evocation & Cloak of the Scoundrel - for class listing, it might be easier to just put "Human Wizard" & "Human Fighter"

UR/Relic/Legend Charm Bracelets - I would stick with one set of language "May wear X additional"

Specials - Assuming all the other token backs get their correct colors, the gold backed URs will need the stars in the border.

Scroll Plane Step - move the there to after turn "may take normal turn there"

Ring of Direct Insults - "received from Taunted monster attack"

Edit: Agree with Arnold:

Pirates should be either Pirate's or Pirates' depending on who it was stolen from.

Remove HP from Sacred Light Charm


Another Edit: Scribes Spectacles should be Scribe's Spectacles

Phil

Special tokens - Amulet is damage from shock while greaves indicate damage from acid attacks. I check the TD database and found that in recent years (2019-2021) greaves were damage from (type) without the word attacks. Consider removing the word attacks from the text on both of the greaves tokens.

Yeah, “Pirates” should have a possessive apostrophe.

And for the Rares, “Scribes Spectacles” should also have an apostrophe - “Scribe’s Spectacles.”

I like the change to both Rare GP items being 500 GP each.

Should Ring of Storms be "Wizard" or "Wizards"? That is, are we intentionally leaving the Elf Wizard off, which is how it reads now.

Arnold wrote: Crown of Evocation & Cloak of the Scoundrel - for class listing, it might be easier to just put "Human Wizard" & "Human Fighter"

Singular Wizard and Fighter have always implied the “Human” class in previous tokens. Plural indicates the class as a whole and Dwarf and Elf have always been called out when appropriate.

EDIT: That said I can’t track down anywhere in previous tokens where this has been laid out. So I may just be inferring intent rather than actual precedent. But it looks like in 2012 we switched from the singular to the plural on both fighter and Wizard classes.

TL;DR: I now agree that it should read Human Fighter/Wizard just to be clear.

Unless we get a Legendary Turkey leg with throwing and returning (please no), I think +2 with returning is fine for relic. Specially if it's intent is to be used for Turkey Leg Runs, I want the convenience and budget consideration to not have to change weapons, or stats to use the Relic and/or UR and/or Rare for Ranged Combat... not needing to carry a bunch of one-use thrown weapons would be nice ideally.. UR and Relic were Perfect together (for Melee Dual Wielding and still allowing Ranged Combat when needed) to make them accessible and desirable when they were both at +2.

It's not better than Thor's Legend or Relic for Damage So that Legend will still be useful. And Relics won't get Reprints right? So make em fast! If the complaint is that the +3 Hammer is under powered, then give it Returning too because it is. I always thought it should have returning in the first place anyway, I know I would use the 2 copies I have been holding for Thor's transmute if it had returning too.

Most people who do Turkey Leg Runs Don't Care about the damage as much as the usefulness of the new token(s) considering they've all been +0 legs until now with no throwing or returning... not having it on the strongest token is disappointing
Either way, New Players do get a bonus cool thing too out of this... but the current setup is much less desirable than before.

Damage number progression across Legs now seems fine for the current values. Losing 1 hit on the dial seems perfect. Does the new Damage Wheel mean that Common Turkey Legs can get a special exchange or reprint to 1d4 damage? Or can they be used as Transmute ingredients? If they remain at 0, then Rare could be 1d4 damage, and UR and Relic still could be +2 without making them OP with Throwing/Returning at Relic.

+1 for a modern UR weapon seems wrong considering all our more recent Keen and Smiting URs have been +2... I can't eat it, can't throw it or the relic now... UR Hammer is +2 with a dex requirement... I would be fine with Relic Legs only being +2 and having a Dex Requirement too to get Throwing and Returning back on the Relic and UR to +2 again It was such an elegant design, really... it just needed less damage output.

At the very least add Throwing back to the relic. if not returning. Make them all throwing, then the relic getting returning is just part of the progression?

My hope before was to get 2 Relics and 2 UR to cover my 2 Main builds If my old group of friends ever got to do a Turkey Leg Run together. and I needed two dual wielders, now I'll likely only want 2 Relics for myself and hope that someone else can provide my friend something better than rares.

Aeroneus Martellus wrote:

Arnold wrote: Crown of Evocation & Cloak of the Scoundrel - for class listing, it might be easier to just put "Human Wizard" & "Human Fighter"

Singular Wizard and Fighter have always implied the “Human” class in previous tokens. Plural indicates the class as a whole and Dwarf and Elf have always been called out when appropriate.

EDIT: That said I can’t track down anywhere in previous tokens where this has been laid out. So I may just be inferring intent rather than actual precedent. But it looks like in 2012 we switched from the singular to the plural on both fighter and Wizard classes.

TL;DR: I now agree that it should read Human Fighter/Wizard just to be clear.

The Player Cards are Wizard, Elf Wizard, Fighter, Dwarf Fighter. There is technically neither a "Human Fighter" nor "Human Wizard" in the game... You, and many of us are assuming their Species unless that has been stated somewhere I'm not aware of. I like the idea that it's open to personal interpretation for RolePlay