TOPIC: 2020 Transmute Recipes, From the QTR

Druegar wrote:

Endgame wrote: Are the Relic and Legendary transmutes set at this point, or just place holders?

The recipes are freshly poured in cement at this point, but they will harden soonly so please come to your collective consensus with alacrity--in another thread.

3* Enhanced
Lenses of the Owl ©
· 50 GP Silver Mirror
· 200 GP

Ring of Fervor ©
· 1× 100 GP Silver [Ruby or Sapphire] Skull
· 2× Philosopher’s Stone
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
· any 2020 Monster Trophy
· Blight Bud
· Fiend Talon
· Lamia Scale
· Slayer Tentacle
· Stalker Blood
· Swamp Hag Venom

4* Exalted
Charm of Timely Aid ª
· Charm of Lamentation
· 2× Darkwood Plank
· 1× Dwarven Steel
· 1× Minotaur Hide
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
· 1,000 GP Gold bar
· Aragonite
· Blight Bud
· Fiend Talon
· Lamia Scale
· Slayer Tentacle
· Stalker Blood
· Swamp Hag Venom

Gem of Last Hope ª
· Potion Death’s Door (any year)
· Earcuff Vitality (any year)
· 10× Darkwood Plank
· 10× Philosopher’s Stone
· 1,000 GP
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
o Blight Bud
o Fiend Talon
o Lamia Scale
o Slayer Tentacle
o Stalker Blood
o Swamp Hag Venom

Ring of Stamina ª
· Ring of Fortitude (any year)
· 7× Darkwood Plank
· 2× Philosopher’s Stone
· 200 GP
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
· Blight Bud
· Fiend Talon
· Lamia Scale
· Slayer Tentacle
· Stalker Blood
· Swamp Hag Venom

Relic:
+3 Holy Avenger «
· +2 Holy Avenger
· 10× Alchemist’s Ink
· 10× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 20× Darkwood Plank
· 15× Dwarven Steel
· 1× Elven Bismuth
· 20× Enchanter’s Munition
· 15× Minotaur Hide
· 20× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 10× Philosopher’s Stone
· 5,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Medallion of Furious Attack «
· Bracers of Reckless Fury
· 10× Alchemist’s Ink
· 5× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 25× Darkwood Plank
· 20× Dwarven Steel
· 2× Elven Bismuth
· 10× Enchanter’s Munition
· 15× Minotaur Hide
· 20× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 25× Philosopher’s Stone
· 5,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Necklace of the Spirit Drake «
· Ring of the Drake
· 10× Alchemist’s Ink
· 10× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 20× Darkwood Plank
· 20× Dwarven Steel
· 1× Elven Bismuth
· 10× Enchanter’s Munition
· 10× Minotaur Hide
· 20× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 10× Philosopher’s Stone
· 5,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Pendant of the Yew «
· Cloak of the Elm
· 15× Alchemist’s Ink
· 15× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 20× Darkwood Plank
· 15× Dwarven Steel
· 1× Elven Bismuth
· 15× Enchanter’s Munition
· 10× Minotaur Hide
· 20× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 12× Philosopher’s Stone
· 5,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Legendary
Ava’s +5 Holy Avenger
· +3 Holy Avenger
· +2 Flaming Blade
· Charm of Glory
· 10× Alchemist’s Ink
· 15× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 2× Aragonite
· 30× Darkwood Plank
· 25× Dwarven Steel
· 2× Elven Bismuth
· 25× Enchanter’s Munition
· 1× Golden Fleece
· 20× Minotaur Hide
· 20× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 20× Philosopher’s Stone
· 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
o Wish Ring
o 15,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Benrow’s Elder Drake Necklace
· Necklace of the Spirit Drake
· Shirt of the Oaf
· Cook’s Hat
· 15× Alchemist’s Ink
· 15× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 30× Darkwood Plank
· 25× Dwarven Steel
· 3× Elven Bismuth
· 20× Enchanter’s Munition
· 1× Golden Fleece
· 20× Minotaur Hide
· 22× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 25× Philosopher’s Stone
· 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
o Wish Ring
o 15,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Bog’s Medallion of Berserking
· Medallion of Furious Attack
· Arcane Belt
· Ioun Stone Banshee Prism
· 10× Alchemist’s Ink
· 10× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 30× Darkwood Plank
· 25× Dwarven Steel
· 3× Elven Bismuth
· 15× Enchanter’s Munition
· 1× Golden Fleece
· 15× Minotaur Hide
· 35× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 35× Philosopher’s Stone
· 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
o Wish Ring
o 15,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Ralson’s Pendant of the Elder Yew
· Pendant of the Yew
· +1 Mighty Short Bow
· Lenses of Agility
· 15× Alchemist’s Ink
· 15× Alchemist’s Parchment
· 1× Aragonite
· 30× Darkwood Plank
· 25× Dwarven Steel
· 2× Elven Bismuth
· 25× Enchanter’s Munition
· 1× Golden Fleece
· 25× Minotaur Hide
· 25× Mystic Silk
· 1× Oil of Enchantment
· 25× Philosopher’s Stone
· 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
o Wish Ring
o 15,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Quick thoughts

Relics are running around 120 trade tokens for transmute. That feels like a lot - some like Plank and Stones are probably not a big deal. Not sure larger quantities of Dwarven Steel / Enchanter's Munitions / Minotaur Hide though.

Shirt of the Oaf is going to be used for the Arcanum transmute as well as a Legendary Transmute. That should make them... scarce in a few years.

Interesting choices for the URs.

I'm bummed there isn't a way to make Ava's from Welfor's, but this probably impacts about 10 people total.

The recipes definitely feel expensive with trade goods.

I did notice that the Golden Fleece requirements went back down. Perhaps that's why the other chocolate requirements went up?

Arnold wrote: I did notice that the Golden Fleece requirements went back down. Perhaps that's why the other chocolate requirements went up?

The receipes all list 2019 monster tokens. New players in 2020 will not access to these in the treasure boxes.

2019 monster tokens and RRF can be used to satify those receipes while using 2020 monster bits to make Golden Fleece.

Is there really that much of a glut of enchanters munitions? 20 for the +3 Holy Avenger?

New relics should, IMHO, really focus on requirements from that year. It looks like the potion and earcuff are being reprinted so that part is ok. Not requiring 2020 monster bits seems odd, though - discouraging for new players. Perhaps make that 2019 or 2020 monster bits as a requirement?

The trade good requirements also seem very high for relics.

Fred

edwin wrote:

Arnold wrote: I did notice that the Golden Fleece requirements went back down. Perhaps that's why the other chocolate requirements went up?

The receipes all list 2019 monster tokens. New players in 2020 will not access to these in the treasure boxes.

2019 monster tokens and RRF can be used to satify those receipes while using 2020 monster bits to make Golden Fleece.

I agree here. 2020 monster bits should be part of the recipe for new items so we're including new players. Maybe make it applicable for both years?

Looking at the Class Relic recipes, comparing 2019 vs 2020 (averages)...

Trade Good	2019	2020
AI	6	11.25
AP	5	10
AG	1	1
DP	16.66666667	21.25
DS	4	17.5
EB	1	1.25
EM	0	13.75
GF	1	0
MH	1.666666667	12.5
MS	10	20
OE	1	1
PS	12.33333333	14.25
GP	5000	5000.00

Surprised how much everything went up. Especially DS, EM, and MH. Those feel way off.

0 GF is nice, yes, but I'd rather have the 2019 values with 1 GF required personally.

I will check when I get home but Dwarven steel seems way out of line with other past relics (like twice to 4 times heavier). I also don't know that anyone is sitting on a lot of it. Okay at least I know I am not. I don't have enough to make the current stuff.

jedibcg wrote: I will check when I get home but Dwarven steel seems way out of line with other past relics (like twice to 4 times heavier). I also don't know that anyone is sitting on a lot of it. Okay at least I know I am not. I don't have enough to make the current stuff.

I never have enough DS or MH.

And I’ll still have a ludicrous amount of MS and PS.

Unless I win the lotto I won’t make the Ava’s this year. Might be tricky for me to make the Relic Holy Avenger

EDITED
Yep, way short on EM for the Relic. I do have some pending transmutes but may have to get hold of some.