Rob F wrote:
Yes I agree with Matt here. The Avenger is WAY OP. Look at Thor's, a lot of people think it's OP (I'm one of them) and that Token even has a stat you have to hit to wield it. Avenger +5 Saves, +5 Sword with great damage, built in UR Amulet of Guarding, and still other goodies. Hands down best Token ever created. I know the Pally's want a cool weapon but this one is crazy OP.
I don't want one that is unfair. I want one that is good, very good, but ultimately in line with everything "legendary"
I think to do that well, we would need to know about stacking guard or not.
Many seem to feel that 4 people (including the Paladin) using the Paladin's AC is too good.
I can't tell you how little guard really comes into play. Ranged attackers, Spells, AoE from monsters, Frost Giants, Scrael. Is it still in play enough to make guarding 3 too good? I don't think so, but a lot of others do, so I will agree to disagree with them.
If this doesn't stack, what happens is that the Paladin picks up a Stu's or Medallion of Valhalla, and gets +3 Str and either +3 Dex or +4 Con. If those stats were printed on this instead of "may guard 1 additional character" people would be losing their minds, or so I think.
I like the idea of allowing Paladins to choose to support their team with one additional guard OR with extra strength and dex or con, but again, I am in the minority. I don't mind that.
Sacrifice is a fun power, but almost never comes up in the main dungeon.