TOPIC: Legendary totem recipe request

I know I may be in the minority, but please don’t add an outdated UR to the legendary totem recipe. I know I’m a low end middle of the road player, 2 VTD ru throughs. At least each dungeon once at gen con and gamehole con. But I feel the squeeze in resources already with a bunch of multi year transmutes coming.

I know I could make an Omni orb, but that is more precious resources.

In the end I know it’s a legendary and supposed to be hard. Pulling the runes has been harder than the previous bits it seems. Thematically I actually wanted this one.

Hopefully this resonates with a middle of the road players.

I agree 100%.

It should just be the 40 runes and that’s it.

Using an outdated UR favors long term players and hurts everyone else who has to cough up $$ to buy them on the secondary market.

There was a suggestion on discord that there be a UR, but it would be any UR slot expander. That would work just fine for me given the bead bracelets are in print

Can always have two recipes.

Totem of Wonder requiring a Wonder UR made tons of sense as it obsoleted those tokens for anyone who only cared about a single build. Wonder URs are hardly hard to get.

Rune does something different from any other token, so it's not as clear what would make sense among URs, but there are still lots of Charm Bracelets, Arcane Bracelets in circulation that don't see use.

If these annual slotless things were relics, I could see not making them that challenging to make. Legendaries are supposed to be challenging to make. Can think about the 40,000 gold don't need to make these slotless tokens, etc.

It makes sense to me that it might require some sort of slot expander UR. Charm Bracelets are available at Trent Tokens for as low as $45, so it would be nice to have a sink for a few of those, like the last one was a sink for Wonder tokens.

I would love to see this with just the 40 pieces as well. I had the 2024 pieces to make an extra totem for a loaner but did not transmute because of the added UR and other bits. Collecting 40 pieces of something only obtainable in treasure should be reward enough for the cool annual thing.

Totem of Wonder has a recipe of 40 idols and one UR. An UR easily found and always available for under $100. The amount of effort to get the 40 idols is so much greater than the amount of effort to get a Wonder UR. Assumedly, if didn't bother getting the UR, sold some or all of the idols and have more money in the pocket.

I don't know that the point of legendaries was to make extras for loaners. Now, maybe that's what they are these days - just something that hundreds of players have extras of - where the only tokens that require real effort to make are ones based off of one-ofs in 8k bundles or the bigger Safeholds.

TD can go to a model where nothing is hard to get, be more like, say, a CCG where any top player will have access to everything. That wasn't the model, though. If trying to perpetuate a model that some things are going to be things that even the highly invested players don't have, should be more than a handful of tokens.

I don't think including a UR is a big deal.

I don't think the request is to avoid any extra cost in the recipe. I feel like the the underlying request is to make sure everyone has an even playing field.

I'll admit that I acted very opportunistically after the Totem of Wonder recipe reveal to procure the old amulet. Within a few days, the price shot up. The only Wonder UR I now see for sale from a vendor costs 5x what I paid.

I fully appreciate how it feels to get excited for something, only to realize you're at a disadvantage because you never had an opportunity to acquire an ingredient when it was in print.

Marc D wrote: I don't think the request is to avoid any extra cost in the recipe. I feel like the the underlying request is to make sure everyone has an even playing field.

I'll admit that I acted very opportunistically after the Totem of Wonder recipe reveal to procure the old amulet. Within a few days, the price shot up. The only Wonder UR I now see for sale from a vendor costs 5x what I paid.

I fully appreciate how it feels to get excited for something, only to realize you're at a disadvantage because you never had an opportunity to acquire an ingredient when it was in print.

An Omni Orb can be used in the recipe if someone doesn't have the required UR.

As I stated above I understand on the Omni orb. The material cost of those have shot up.

Marc nails it on the head. Make it an attainable UR. Heck, make it one from this year that you can still purchase. Then the money is going straight to TD and not the secondary market.

KingThor wrote: As I stated above I understand on the Omni orb. The material cost of those have shot up.

Marc nails it on the head. Make it an attainable UR. Heck, make it one from this year that you can still purchase. Then the money is going straight to TD and not the secondary market.

If it was "any UR slot enhancing token", the Bead Bracelets are in the current tokens set.